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Are you referring to the fake stories about allowing illegals into Florida? LOL.
Maybe you should check the amount of cases in states BORDERING mexico vs Florida.. to see if that story is real or not. Hint: FL is on fire. Boarder states are not.
You'll notice the buses transporting the illegals from the border do not stop a mile or so away and drop them off in the middle of nowhere.
Chinese state media caught inventing a Swiss biologist who blamed America for Covid-19 origin lies
https://www.news.com.au/world/corona...0d84cb40627632 (
Social media accounts purporting to be a Swiss biologist have reportedly been fabricated by Chinese media to bolster a theory that the US pressured the World Health Organisation to investigate the origin of Covid-19.
Chinese state media quoted a man named Wilson Edwards in several reports this week claiming the “international scientific community” was disappointed in the US for its role in encouraging the WHO to investigate theories Covid-19 was leaked from a Wuhan lab.
The Embassy of Switzerland has since revealed that a person by such a name does not exist, and “more likely that this is a fake news”.) (MY OP there are wumao here in this forum i seen them already in other forums using this fake swiss Wilson Edwards crap!! be aware!!
And unlike CDC, which is determined to feign ignorance about recovered immunity, Israel does look into it. The same agency you just cited.
"Coronavirus patients who recovered from the virus were far less likely to become infected during the latest wave of the pandemic than people who were vaccinated against COVID, according to numbers presented to the Israeli Health Ministry."
More than 7,700 new cases of the virus have been detected during the most recent wave starting in May, but just 72 of the confirmed cases were reported in people who were known to have been infected previously – that is, less than 1% of the new cases. https://www.israelnationalnews.com/N...ws.aspx/309762
Which is what we (or certainly I) have repeatedly said, including the other day. There is also comparable PHE data.
Recovered immunity is broader perhaps because there is cellular immunity against the whole virus. I just gave you a Swedish study over on the other sticky that compares the two populations.
Note the use of the terminology: "in people who were known to have been infected previously." That works the other way around also.
There is the Danish population study using different methodology that suggested the recovered immune were more likely to become reinfected and asymptomatic than the vaccinated - at least for recent vaccination. Perhaps because at the beginning they have a lower level of nAbs than two-shot vaccinated.
Unless there is new data, which certainly is possible.
Note the use of the terminology: "in people who were known to have been infected previously." That works the other way around also.
Sure which is why most of my calls for more data have been for pct of recovered as confirmed with a previous positive test, not "I felt really bad last March, musta been covid".
But the "known" disclaimer applies to vaccinated numbers, too. When they say something like "only 5 out of 200 new hospitalizations were vaccinated" that means 5 that were known to be vaccinated. I don't trust this CDC to present numbers fairly even when it goes against their recommendations or agenda. Maybe they just didn't try very hard to confirm that a patient had been vaccinated.
I'm hesitant to ask for enhanced data on recovered immunity when they are so uninterested in providing any data at all, but ideally they would be tracking hospitalizations not just by vaccinated and recovered status but date of vaccination and date of infection/recovery. Your protection level from either is not static and we need to know to what degree both of them degrade. This is why I discount the May KY study of 265 showing recovered 2x more likely to be re-infected than vaccinated, because their recovered subjects were those recovered Oct-Dec 2020 and their vaccinated subjects were Jan-Mar 2021.
Vaccination won’t prevent you from getting COVID but it helps keep you out of hospitals and cemeteries.
What does their being from Florida have to do with being un-vaxxed? Vaccinations are readily available to people in Florida, and they have a fairly high vax rate. Also, people are free to wear n95 masks in Florida to protect themselves.
In short summary ….. all the bloviating about most new cases now being confirmed as the “delta variant” is pure claptrap, with no legitimate evidence behind it. It is also important to note that the PCR test is still the primary diagnostic test being used, even after the FDA declared it inadequate for diagnostic testing. Imagine that! They really are “following the science” aren’t they?
This is exactly my point that so many on here can't grasp. That's the damn point!
The genome sequencing that detects variants is done separately to the PCR test.
It’s not a diagnostic test.
They’ve already tested for the presence of the virus. The diagnosis is that you have Covid.
They don’t sequence every single Covid positive test sample.
That's the FRICKEN POINT! You can't sit there and say that all of these 'new cases' (still using the faulty PCR tests) are 'Delta variant', when you have NO idea if they are or not!
What part of that is difficult for you to comprehend?
This whole thing is getting outta hand with pushing the vaccines. In my town they have begun offering $50 for taking the vaccine. Some may be persuaded to get injected with the vaccine for $50, but I'm not.
Everyday we're hearing more cases of those fully vaccinated, still catching covid, still being able to spread covid so these vaccines are NOT working like they want people to think and no the narrative a vaccinated person will have lesser symptoms or not be hospitalized is not for the average person anyway, the majority recover at home just fine.
If one ever needed any type of a clue that maybe they should question wth is going on, it's when people are being BRIBED to take a 'vaccine'.
If it was such a great 'vaccine', and if it actually worked, and if you provided real numbers, actual facts, and proved to every one that this is real, you wouldn't need to bribe anyone.
If one ever needed any type of a clue that maybe they should question wth is going on, it's when people are being BRIBED to take a 'vaccine'.
If it was such a great 'vaccine', and if it actually worked, and if you provided real numbers, actual facts, and proved to every one that this is real, you wouldn't need to bribe anyone.
Do they need to bribe people to take a flu shot?
NO. They don't.
Haven't tried that yet with the yearly flu shots. Given that only about 50% of the adult populations gets flu shots, maybe they will, and COMBINE the flu vax with a yearly covid shot.
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Chinese state media caught inventing a Swiss biologist who blamed America for Covid-19 origin lies
