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Old 03-06-2020, 12:27 PM
 
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Let me get this straight...in the flu season of 2018/19 the CDC estimates that up to 42.9 million people got sick during the 2018-2019 flu season, 647,000 people were hospitalized and 61,200 died. That’s fairly on par with a typical season.

https://time.com/5610878/2018-2019-flu-season/

Just to put this coronavirus in perspective we have had 232 cases and 14 deaths this flu season so far. Compare this to CDC US estimates indicate that there have been 13 million influenza illnesses in the 2019/2020 flu season, 120,000 hospitalizations, and 6600 flu-related deaths and we are not finished with this flu season.

https://www.contagionlive.com/news/c...-201920-season

Where is the MSM frenzy/outrage over this years and last years deaths of over 70k flu related deaths.

Please stop with this uninformed and pure rubbish argument. The flu is nothing compared to the coronavirus.

Let me break it down simply: The coronavirus' reproduction number is estimated to be TWICE that of the flu... and we have no vaccine.

The death rate for COVID-19 is 23 TIMES deadier than the flu (2.3% vs 0.1%). That means if the flu infected 13 million and killed 70k, then under the same circumstance the coronavirus would infect 26 million and killed almost 600k.

Furthermore, those who recovered could be facing permanent respiratory damages. This isn't like the flu where you recovered and you're back to normal. With COVID-19, the recovered person could have a shot lung for life.

We don't have a hospitalization rate for COVID-19, but it is much higher than the flu from observation. Our healthcare system is NOT equipped to deal with that. If you have a medical emergency, you may find the hospital refuses to see you because they are packed with COVID-19 patients. You know, like what happened in Wuhan.


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Old 03-06-2020, 12:29 PM
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Location: Great Britain
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There is already a simple home testing kit, which takes only 20 minutes to make a diagnosis, the question is how quickly it can be manufactured and rolled out for use.

Inventor of home pregnancy test develops coronavirus test - The Telegraph

Coronavirus: UK to spend £46m more in fight against disease - BBC News
 
Old 03-06-2020, 12:31 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Yup, we can say that because it is not just a matter of whose test, but the number of tests to prepare. Trump has said this whole thing is no big deal for the US. That appears to have been translated into the decision to do limited testing. Whether that was implicit or explicit I don't know but not sure it matters. His style has always been to make his policies known by tweet.
Doesn't matter what Trump says. If we used WHO's test we'd have just as many tests as the other countries out by now.

But no....someone decided that the US would develop a test to not only test for covid-19 but a whole bunch of others at the same time and then bungled the whole shebang.

That was not Trump. That would have been someone in the CDC or the FDA. And I say "off with their head" then..fire their *ss.
 
Old 03-06-2020, 12:45 PM
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Still waiting patiently for that Israeli vaccine

Please stop the orange man bad thing.
 
Old 03-06-2020, 12:45 PM
 
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How do you plan to remedy who is president? By backing a candidate who is suffering from dementia.
Yes, if that's what it takes. Anybody but Trump.
 
Old 03-06-2020, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Tulare County, Ca
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Kaiser Permanente in Washington now has developed a vaccine and received an ok to begin trial tests. Lets hope it's successful.
KOMONEWS ^
 
Old 03-06-2020, 12:47 PM
 
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the trump haters here complain that trump hasnt responded to the corona virus in a timely manner, yet we ahve fewer than 300 cases in this country, and fewer than 20 deaths. why? because trump stepped up and restricted travel from countries with known outbreaks of the disease, and has quarantined US citizens brought back from countries with the disease running rampant.



and the CDC hasnt been lagging either, they continually research various viruses, some far worse than corona by the way, so its not like the corona virus is the only thing they have to deal with.


also lets not leave congress blameless in this, they took their sweet time bringing up a spending bill to help combat the disease, though they did get it passed fairly quickly once it hit the floor.


also note that trump declared an emergency at the end of january about a month after the virus was first discovered. compere that with the 2009 h1n1 outbreak where it took obama more than six months to declare an emergency, and by that time tens of thousands had been infected with that virus with over a thousand deaths.
 
Old 03-06-2020, 12:48 PM
 
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Doesn't matter what Trump says. If we used WHO's test we'd have just as many tests as the other countries out by now.

But no....someone decided that the US would develop a test to not only test for covid-19 but a whole bunch of others at the same time and then bungled the whole shebang.

That was not Trump. That would have been someone in the CDC or the FDA. And I say "off with their head" then..fire their *ss.
How about a link proving this “story.”
 
Old 03-06-2020, 12:48 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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We all know why. Trump is anti-science. The facts are what he says they are, not what the experts say they are. Tests can get in the way of his narrative.
what a load of feces. explain in detail how trump was responsible for a faulty reagent in the first generation CDC covid-19 kit.

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But we DO know who lied about what testing capability would be by today.
did they lie or did they over-promise?

cite evidence they knew they wouldn't have the testing capability they promised.

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Doesn't matter what Trump says. If we used WHO's test we'd have just as many tests as the other countries out by now.
that's a big assumption. there's manufacturing, validation, quality control, and distribution to consider.

just because it previously existed doesn't mean it magically self-creates and appears in hospitals when needed.
 
Old 03-06-2020, 12:48 PM
 
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How do you plan to remedy who is president? By backing a candidate who is suffering from dementia.
What does it say that the person with dementia has a MUCH BETTER grasp on the situation than the stable genius?

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