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I would live to see the headline “Trump withholds funds from states not enforcing E verify”, I guess this passes as a solution.
I agree, but there is a problem with that. A problem that Congress could FIX, but won’t.
E- Verify for all is not LAW. It could be Law if Congress would pass it, but they haven’t done that.
Again, sanctuary cities do not "shield" anyone from immigration laws. They neither help those who are responsible enforcing them nor interfere with the efforts of those responsible enforcing them. So, they are a "sanctuary" in the sense that they will not assist those looking for them but not a "sanctuary" in the sense that they will help them hide by hindering the efforts of those looking for them.
And while you are correct in recognizing that officials in sanctuary cities have a policy of non-interference, I don't understand from what you think they need to be indemnified. Local and State Governments are not empowered to enforce immigration law, so they would not need to be indemnified for failing to enforce them.
My responses have nothing to do with studying immigration lawyers' arguments. I am only presenting the facts of which you appear to be unaware.
So the real question from your answer is WHY do sanctuary cities have this policy of non-interference. Who does it benefit? Certainly not the American citizen. Why does ICE have to go door-to-door to pick up an illegal who has raped children?
Sanctuary cities know the immigration status of offenders and still they CHOOSE not to cooperate with federal immigration authorities in order to score political points. If I or my family were injured by an illegal who was recently in custody, I would sue the sanctuary with every resource I had. I would tell my story to every media outlet. And who knows, maybe one day, some despondent parent (or child) will exact a price from politicians and people who support the rights of illegals over citizens. Maybe that's what it's going to take for people to see there will be repercussions for their malfeasance.
The idea behind the sanctuary city is that their is no distinction between the illegal alien and the American citizen. It is an effort to devalue citizenship and sovereignty.
I work in San Francisco.
Yeah I’d like to see him go after sanctuary cities.
He is sort of doing a good job with his promises...
I remember when he was debating Hillary he said something like if I was president you would be in jail.
I’d love to see that and I am not a republican.
As a matter of curiosity — how do you feel about BOTH Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden promising that Illegal Aliens would get Citizen Paid “Free” Healthcare?
So the real question from your answer is WHY do sanctuary cities have this policy of non-interference. Who does it benefit? Certainly not the American citizen. Why does ICE have to go door-to-door to pick up an illegal who has raped children?
The primary policy belief behind sanctuary cities is that illegal immigrants, regardless of whether we wish they were not here, are in fact present and it is better to have them interact with law enforcement without fear of deportation than it is to fear that reporting crimes and assisting law enforcement will result in their deportation. Local law enforcement has overwhelming supported the sanctuary designation because it makes their job easier and more effective. There are also budgetary reasons to be a sanctuary city.
But your repeated reference to this "child rapist" immigrant running free in the community because of sanctuary status is a bogeyman not grounded in reality. Any child rapist, regardless of their immigration status, is going to be
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Sanctuary cities know the immigration status of offenders and still they CHOOSE not to cooperate with federal immigration authorities in order to score political points. If I or my family were injured by an illegal who was recently in custody, I would sue the sanctuary with every resource I had.
It seems like poor financial planning to squander your assets on a no-win litigation, but you know what they say about and fool and his money.
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The idea behind the sanctuary city is that their is no distinction between the illegal alien and the American citizen. It is an effort to devalue citizenship and sovereignty.
The idea behind a sanctuary city is not that "their [sic] is no distinction between the illegal alien and the American citizen" but if you want to dumb it down to a bumper sticker slogan to fuel your outrage, I guess that is your prerogative.
I don't even see why this would be controversial. Why should federal funds go to cities that protect criminal aliens? That would be, in effect, asking American taxpayers (like me) to protect those who not only break into our country illegally, but go on to commit crimes against honest and law-abiding Americans.
This is only "controversial" to libs, as they do not believe in the rule of law.
Right. So generally speaking, the "sanctuary" in sanctuary city applies to the enforcement of immigration laws. Thanks for making my point. That a governing body has a policy of non-interference isn't an indemnification for their non-action.
I get it. You've studied some arguments of immigration lawyers, arguments designed to shape the interpretation of laws to fit a leftist agenda and nullify their actual intent. Big deal. You still can't refute my arguments.
Sorry, the word illegal is accurate, and the term sanctuary as it applies to shielding illegals from immigration law is spot on. Neither is a misnomer. Unless, of course, you simply have dispensed with the objective meaning of words.
Note crickets from that poster when he claimed that most illegal aliens have not broken any criminal laws? I guess felony ID theft and/or tax evasion are not against criminal laws?
Note crickets from that poster when he claimed that most illegal aliens have not broken any criminal laws? I guess felony ID theft and/or tax evasion are not against criminal laws?
Most illegal immigrants pay income taxes (despite not getting the benefit of most social programs Americans get in return). And most do not commit felony ID theft because using a fake social security number to pay those taxes, even if it turns out to belong to someone else, is not a crime. In any event, the discussion circled around the claim that all illegal immigrants had committed a Federal crime by virtue of their presence here, which is not true.
Politicians breaking immigration laws should be arrested and prosecuted.
That could be in the pipeline.... at some point, LAW has to be followed as opposed to Leftist Ideology.
The DOJ has been busy, but it takes a lot of time/effort to discover/sweep out the those that worship Ideology above the Law.
But yet continues to elect people like Gov. Jay "Tax everyone to hell and back" Inslee and socialist scum like Sawant.
The liberals of King County would elect Charles Manson if he had a (D) next to his name.
Pathetic.
If they lose an election they sue... or they keep doing recounts till the D gets the win like in 2004.
I'm not even sure what to do with my mail in ballot. If I check the (R) that is on the outside of the envelope is my Democratic postman going to throw my ballot into the garbage?
So much this. I was joking that my ballot would probably go in the garbage, and they'll probably find trunks full of absentee ballots that just tip the socialist democrats to a win (again). Glad to see the Feds step up, and it's time they do so and take the gloves off, not just holding back funds but charging those enabling the protections and handouts for illegals with federal offenses.
I get a kick out of it after watching KROM's "People Behaving Badly" where they use multiple police agencies to enforce traffic codes.
What goes around comes around.
Stanley Roberts left had a falling out with that station and now does it for a station in Phoenix AZ, I think.
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