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Old 03-06-2020, 09:42 AM
 
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You don't see that this is nullification by cities and states of federal law(s), interfering with the apprehension of alien, illegal at that, felons.

Nondifference than what Presidents Jackson and Lincoln faced.

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So now we have a SCOTUS-approved policy that allows the US President to selectively target and financially damage cities he does not like. This is no longer functioning at the federal level; it's down to specific cities. He can pick and choose which city he attacks. What is to stop him from applying this for leverage on other policies? Or just targeting cities that didn't vote for him? The guy was already impeached for abuse of power.
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Old 03-06-2020, 11:31 AM
 
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From the link in the OP....

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In a letter to de Blasio last month, ICE Acting Director Matt Albence noted that ICE’s New York City Enforcement and Removals Office issued detainers on 7,526 subjects who had criminal histories, including 3,500 assaults, 1,500 DUIs, 1,000 sex crimes, 1,000 weapons offenses, 500 robberies and 200 homicides.
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Old 03-06-2020, 11:39 AM
 
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So what does the sanctuary refer to in sanctuary cities? Sanctuary from what? There is a reason why cities are not reporting immigration status. They are harboring criminals and aiding and abetting their continued presence with taxpayer dollars.

You don't need quotes around the word illegal. Those people are here illegally whether they breached the border or for any other reason. Your quotes just show you don't like that very effective and accurate label.

Trump is right to take the action to deny funds to those cities. No immigration reporting? No support.

You picked the wrong guy to try and parse words.
Take the DEA for example, they are 'aiding and abetting' foreign criminal organizations, by means of their tough drug laws enforced in the US...this sets up the PERFECT marketplace for the cartels and ensures they will continue to profit! This should not be tolerated anymore than allowing illegal immigrants to do as they please.


Considering what the DEA is doing, the Govt doesnt have much room to talk about 'sanctuary cities'!!!
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Old 03-06-2020, 11:41 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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So now we have a SCOTUS-approved policy that allows the US President to selectively target and financially damage cities he does not like. This is no longer functioning at the federal level; it's down to specific cities. He can pick and choose which city he attacks. What is to stop him from applying this for leverage on other policies? Or just targeting cities that didn't vote for him? The guy was already impeached for abuse of power.
Ha ha ha

Impeach away. It will be like merit badges and he'll have the entire set.
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Old 03-06-2020, 12:51 PM
 
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So now we have a SCOTUS-approved policy that allows the US President to selectively target and financially damage cities he does not like. This is no longer functioning at the federal level; it's down to specific cities. He can pick and choose which city he attacks. What is to stop him from applying this for leverage on other policies? Or just targeting cities that didn't vote for him? The guy was already impeached for abuse of power.
No. Not ones that he does not like, just the ones that are outright breaking the law.
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Old 03-06-2020, 01:17 PM
 
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No. Not ones that he does not like, just the ones that are outright breaking the law.
There is no law that obliges local authorities to cooperate or assist the Federal government in their immigration enforcement efforts. If the President is allowed to tie funds to State compliance with his or her policy decisions, it will be interesting times. What if, for example, the President conditioned the release of certain aid on redrawing its Congressional districts in a certain way? Or tied it to the State passing a law that changed the way Electoral College votes are allocated? This is a slippery slope indeed.
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Old 03-06-2020, 01:18 PM
 
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There is no law that obliges local authorities to cooperate or assist the Federal government in their immigration enforcement efforts.

So, people are above the law? Please elaborate.
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Old 03-06-2020, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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makes complete sense, illegals need to be sent to California, nice weather, people that want to help them. Get the buses rolling.

Godspeed.
No, illegals need to be sent back to the country they came from.
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Old 03-06-2020, 01:22 PM
 
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So, people are above the law? Please elaborate.
There is no law that obliges local government to cooperate with the Federal government on immigration enforcement. No law. Not a law being ignored, but no law. None.

If you are having trouble with this, find someone nearby who can explain it.
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Old 03-06-2020, 01:27 PM
 
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There is no law that obliges local government to cooperate with the Federal government on immigration enforcement. No law. Not a law being ignored, but no law. None.

If you are having trouble with this, find someone nearby who can explain it.

If someone crosses our border illegally, is it legal or illegal? If you need help, go get your grandchildren to help you out or any kid in kindergarten.
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