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Old 03-14-2020, 01:12 PM
 
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Do you have any citation for that?

While doing a search I found this: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ls/4949078002/
"Fact check of COVID-19 medical bills finds that online rumor of a $3,000 charge is false"
That very link. Man went to ER worried he had it, sought testing, and had a $3k bill. Which would be cash out of pocket on a high deductible plan which is common now.

Yes, it’s better now with it being waived and being handled outside of ERs.

 
Old 03-14-2020, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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With what happened this week with all the closings ? Oh they know by now..stores are packed with people buying stuff.

They are finally waking up that this is serious.
That is certainly true of some folks. But this very thread tells us the message is not making enough progress to say the least.
 
Old 03-14-2020, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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testing won't slow it down. isolation will slow it down.
and people rush into the supermarket certainly is not going to help the situation.
 
Old 03-14-2020, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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At this point, I'm more afraid of how panicky people are acting than I am of this corona virus. Panicky people start doing terrible things.

People need to calm down. Stop listening to talking morons on the tv belching out numbers left and right, and politicians who wear gas masks...GAS masks ffs.

Yes, numbers are going to go up because we are getting more testing, however, what the media doesn't bother to "breaking news" tell anyone is that the majority of those who have the virus are mild. Up to 82% are MILD. Everyone is not going to die, the world is not going to end.

Calm.

Down!
 
Old 03-14-2020, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Haiku
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But if you test negative you have to come back and keep getting tested to make sure you stay negative.
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Yep!
Nope. A doc runs the test to figure out if a person with a cough has CV and needs to quarantine himself. That test does not need to be re-run on that person.

Another purpose of testing is to find out what the actual infection count is. Right now we don't know how many people are sick but not sick enough to get tested by a doctor. That is critical because those people will end up with immunity (hopefully) and should be counted as resolved cases.

The only way to do that is to do widespread testing. It doesn't need to be everyone, but a pool of people need to be selected and then tested and monitored. That pool should be a cross-section of the demographics of the population as a whole and then the number you get from it will represent the entire population.

People in that pool would need to be re-tested, yes, but this is how epidemiology works, by getting a handle on the characteristics of the disease. But again, it is not the entire population but a representative sample. Maybe 50,000 people? I don't know. But not 300 million.

You are for proper epidemiology, yes?
 
Old 03-14-2020, 01:16 PM
 
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That is certainly true of some folks. But this very thread tells us the message is not making enough progress to say the least.
Denial can be strong. I wonder if it gets to the point of mandating more and more through local gov't. Might have to.
 
Old 03-14-2020, 01:16 PM
 
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I found a source of how many people we have actually tested

Compare to all the other countries, You do the math and try to figure out if the number of our actual case is accurate

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...id-19-testing/

I don't think it is doom and gloom, I think if we practice social distancing, there is no way we'd end up like Italy. The choice is ours.
I still think it’s overblown and I had planned to go to church on Sunday. Then I realized that for a short time we do need to slow this thing down and avoid large gatherings. Our church is having services as usual but they won’t allow more than 250 people in at a time. We won’t be going. They won’t possibly be able to keep people at least six feet apart.
 
Old 03-14-2020, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-XluV9rqps

27 minutes, Dr. Fauci

I feel a little bit better. I don't think he's lying to us.
 
Old 03-14-2020, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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If containment is used correctly it will stop the spread. Testing is a nice statistical action but it does nothing for treatment. Testing is not the issue.
How do you determine where containment is needed if you don't test? You cannot shut the whole country down at once.
 
Old 03-14-2020, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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I still think it’s overblown and I had planned to go to church on Sunday. Then I realized that for a short time we do need to slow this thing down and avoid large gatherings. Our church is having services as usual but they won’t allow more than 250 people in at a time. We won’t be going. They won’t possibly be able to keep people at least six feet apart.
exactly. Good choice Mike.

Lucky for us, our church moves the service online.
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