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Bernie Sanders will be one of the only politicians who will be remembered for his integrity when history tells this shameful story.
Unfortunately for him he is a wacky socialist and no one takes them seriously. He might be better than Trump but that bar is pretty darn low.
It also means no one is going to take socialized medicine seriously after the pandemic ends. At this point Europe is having much more trouble dealing with it even with Trump at the helm in the USA.
The 5 biggest EU countries have over 330K cases with 28K deaths. And that is just the 5 biggest.
Unfortunately for him he is a wacky socialist and no one takes them seriously. He might be better than Trump but that bar is pretty darn low.
It also means no one is going to take socialized medicine seriously after the pandemic ends. At this point Europe is having much more trouble dealing with it even with Trump at the helm in the USA.
The 5 biggest EU countries have over 330K cases with 28K deaths. And that is just the 5 biggest.
Unfortunately for you, you’re wrong and that’s your right.
That statement was made that they’ve been delivering for years, 10- to 20,000 masks. Okay, it’s a New York hospital. Very — it’s packed all the time. How do you go from 10 to 20, to 300,000? 10- to 20,000 masks to 300,000?
Even though this is different, something is going on, and you ought to look into it as reporters. Where are the masks going? Are they going out the back door? How do you go from 10,000 to 300,000? And we have that in a lot of different places. So, somebody should probably look into that, because I just don’t see, from a practical standpoint, how that’s possible to go from that to that. And we have that happening in numerous places — not to that extent; that was the highest number I’ve heard. That’s the highest number you’ve seen, I would imagine, right?
But this man makes them and delivers them to a lot of hospitals. He knows the system better than anybody. And I think you were more surprised than I was when you saw that number. So thank you very much. I hope I didn’t get any of your clients in trouble, but it could be that they are in trouble. So they have to look at that in New York.
It does both state he thinks that they are and doesn't. His words once again does him a disservice. It just gives both sides to say the other are wrong in all honesty.
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Originally Posted by MJJersey
Another lie. Another out of context misquote. Anyone who doesn’t have a burning hatred for Trump, please go listen to the whole, real conversation any time people make a negative claim like this about Trump. You will see that it’s almost never true.
Not really, as stated above with the quote, both sides are right. It is typical "take that however you want to" politician speak. That said, what do you think "going out the backdoor" means if it isn't theft?
it will be interesting to see how he got his hands on 80K masks. And note it was the Feds, not NY, that caught him.
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Originally Posted by BoBromhal
also, from the "did Trump say NURSES and DOCTORS" or are people inferring (which is true, people clearly ARE drawing that conclusion from that weird, ill-timed comment):
from the Common Dreams article, very first line:
that charge requires no parsing in any way. this organization/author/whatever claims it.
But it isn't. Trump makes it insanely easy for people to "take what they want" from it. It isn't like he said one thing and it is taken another way, the entire thing is intended to be taken both ways depending on how you align politically. He is fishing for the media to take fake news especially in this case.
It's always made sense to wear masks during this. Even by the logic of saying that only the infected should wear one. But since the infected can be unknown asymptomatic spreaders, everyone should wear one.
The advice not to wear one has always been about the limited supply.
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The WHO and masks
