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Old 04-13-2020, 07:39 AM
 
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Sadly, this is true.

I tuned out politics as soon as I saw the first instance of this getting politicized. That was in February, when Pelosi stood in front of a podium and spewed a bunch of bullsht.

I expect some politicization of any major event, but what we're witnessing now is reprehensible. There is NO unity. It's just "orange man bad," no matter what.

It's absolutely disgusting, and I believe the Democrats are going to pay dearly for it in November.
I kind of agree that the Democrats shot themselves in the foot by always crying "Wolf" in regards to Trump. I think the value of Democrats criticism of Trump during the pandemic, after a history of constantly attacking Trump, is worthless. However, the problem with that Truth is that, now, Trump is actually making things worse overall, in regards to the Pandemic. Yeah....give him a point for stopping flights to China....but that is the only point he gets against the virus while the virus has been scoring many more points, and taking lives, because of Trump. Since the democrats have no standing in attacking Trump now, because they always have, its up to the Republicans to call out Trump. That will not happen on a large enough scale because Republicans see any public condemnation of Trump as being beneficial to their opposition. Hence, they have doubled down in support of Trump, because of politics, despite Trump clearly dropping the ball.

Politics has poisoned this from both sides. However, no one should be surprised by that.
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Old 04-13-2020, 07:41 AM
 
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Even though a number of issues were politicized before 2016, Hillary's loss is when the SHTF beyond anything ever witnessed before. The shock to the Left and the MSM was deep, brutal, and they simply have never recovered.

So they'll use anything to regain control of the White House. You name it, they'll try to politicize it.
I thought after a few months they would calm down, but it’s ramped up exponentially since then. Assuming that their propaganda fails (fingers crossed) and Trump wins re-election, it will get even worse as they pile on with one impeachment attempt after another.
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Old 04-13-2020, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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the naively think that the “rich,” whom they resent
The rank and file democrats - the citizens - have been conditioned through carefully crafted propaganda to hate the rich over decades. Traditionally, Republicans have been associated with "the rich," so it wasn't hard for the Democrats to implement their strategy of class division.

But now, they have a problem. "The rich" are now associated with the Democrat party, not Republicans. The perception still persists, but it's breaking down as more and more people actually take a look.

It's just one more political paradox added to the pile of problems that the Democrat party has created for itself. They're in trouble, and they know it. Desperation pours off of any of power players whenever I see one being interviewed. Especially Pelosi. She always looks terrified. Years ago, she carried herself with a calm confidence. That's long gone. Now, she looks like a deer in headlights, almost every time. And that's with a compliant media pitching her questions. Imagine if they were actually doing their jobs.
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Old 04-13-2020, 07:44 AM
 
Location: STL area
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It became political when the virus (or the reaction to it) was attributed to being a political ploy against the president. It's difficult to recover from that. Mostly from the far right wing media, but the president played along (with the response being a hoax, not the virus itself).
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Old 04-13-2020, 07:48 AM
 
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The rank and file democrats - the citizens - have been conditioned through carefully crafted propaganda to hate the rich over decades. Traditionally, Republicans have been associated with "the rich," so it wasn't hard for the Democrats to implement their strategy of class division.

But now, they have a problem. "The rich" are now associated with the Democrat party, not Republicans. The perception still persists, but it's breaking down as more and more people actually take a look.

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And it’s not just the rich associated with the Democrats, but the working-class (who are the largest voting bloc) associated with the Republicans. And it makes sense. Democrats are insisting on giving away OPM to the poor, up to the point - and sometimes beyond - that they live as well as those earning a moderate living and supporting themselves and their families. And they resent that, rightfully so.

P.S. and you have to wonder if that’s by design - that Dems WANT people without jobs to live better, or at least as well, as those who set the alarm, walk to the bus stop in the cold, stand on their feet all day, and come home bone-tired. Why else would DEMS insist on a rescue package that in many instances means that people will get more money unemployed than those with jobs?
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Old 04-13-2020, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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I agree. It IS positively reprehensible. It’s almost like they’re cheering on economic collapse because a) they think it will help them at the polls and b) they naively think that the “rich,” whom they resent, will be forced to support half of all Americans through years of another Depression. (They see it as a double win: get more people dependent on government, and make the evil rich people pay up.)
You act as if Democrats would not be effected by an economic collapse. That is nothing short of insulting. We share the concern, we also value lives and understand if we don't act responsibly this will last much longer and be even more damaging both economically and with regard to the loss of life.
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Old 04-13-2020, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I don’t understand it. Was it always like this? Was SARS political? The Spanish Flu?

This is supposed to be about coming together not further dividing.
SARS was politicized, and GOP attacked the admin mercilessly, accusing it of fear mongering and over-reacting, even thought the economy was never shut down like it is now (with GOP blessing).

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During and after the pandemic, many claimed that Obama was ginning up the threat, talking about it too much, scaring people too much, being the Nanny State nightmare libertarians had had warned us against. Likely, they said, the faux-crisis was really about developing more support for the Affordable Care Act, not yet voted upon in Congress but looming menacingly on the cold horizon.
https://slate.com/technology/2020/03...swine-flu.html
Ironically now they are saying Obama did nothing about it.

Trump chose to promote the "shut it all down" approach, and maybe it was a "damn if you so, damn if you dont" situation, but he owns the economic impact either way. As for the elections, I don't think it will hurt him too much, unless a Tea Party GOP challenger rises up to call him out of astronomical bail outs and authoritarian actions, but that is extremely unlikely to happen knowing they talk the talk, but fail to walk the walk.
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Old 04-13-2020, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Because coming off a failed impeachment attempt, failed RUSSIA narrative, failed Stormy Daniels scandal......and another dismal collection of Democratic candidates to run against Trump......


The Left needed something else to use as a political weapon.


Pretty disgusting actually.
Disgusting indeed...and to pull it off, they had to root for max American deaths. How macabre is that?

They are losing so badly, they'll do anything to regain power. Its killing them to watch the 'Pubs blow through $2,100,000,000,000 w/o their greedy little hands being all over it. This time, its the Pubs turn to buy votes, and skim Billions off the top in kickbacks.

Meanwhile, the Democrat pigs are lined up at an empty trough!

The Dems are already planning the next crisis so they can do an even larger stimulus, when they regain power. Unfortunately, some of the Dems will be in assisted living by then.
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Old 04-13-2020, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Truly....many honestly don’t know about it, and that’s because the liberal media suppressed anything positive about Trump.

My worry is that enough voters will be manipulated this way. I just had a discussion with a fellow Trump voter (she has a Ph.D. in a scientific field, contrary to arrogant libs saying we’re all uneducated rednecks), and she thinks the Dems might actually be able to brainwash enough people to pull it off.
Creating a preference for a candidate is one thing.

Getting people to the polls to put that preference into action is quite a different thing.

It's going to be a blowout. Democrats aren't going to show up. That's why they're pushing so hard, this late, for some kind of national "vote by mail" malarkey. They need every vote they can get, no matter what it takes, because they couldn't find a candidate, out of the literal dozens offered, who could beat the "dumbest" and "most incompetent" and "most hated," most "impeached forever" president ever.

They have NOTHING but hate to offer, and we see it play out here and on every other media site, social or otherwise, every day.
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Old 04-13-2020, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Southern Willamette Valley, Oregon
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Leftists are trying to blame Trump by saying he didn’t listen to the scientists, when in truth the scientists were saying it would not be a problem, Fauci and the WHO included. My worry is that enough voters will be manipulated this way. I just had a discussion with a fellow Trump voter (she has a Ph.D. in a scientific field, contrary to arrogant libs saying we’re all uneducated rednecks), and she thinks the Dems might actually be able to brainwash enough people to pull it off.
There's no reason not to believe it. They are the masters of spin, deflection, denial, deceit and misinformation.

One particular demographic they have brainwashed to the tune of roughly 92% even! An amazing feat under any circumstance!
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