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Old 04-18-2020, 06:25 AM
 
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Yes exactly. +10


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Costco in no way interferes with my socializing with my community, family traditions or anything, and I am surrounded by beauty. Costco actually causes us to get together with family more, that big ol pack of steaks means I can invite more people over.
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Old 04-18-2020, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Costco in no way interferes with my socializing with my community, family traditions or anything, and I am surrounded by beauty. Costco actually causes us to get together with family more, that big ol pack of steaks means I can invite more people over.
That's my point, its the cultural venue from which friends and family gather. It contextualizes our social relationships, but also reinforces values that you may not support.

Mass consumerism, maximal efficiency, strip malls, and dehumanizing architecture much like a feedlot.

Humans are more than cattle for the economy.
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Old 04-18-2020, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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That's my point, its the cultural venue from which friends and family gather. It contextualizes our social relationships, but also reinforces values that you may not support.

Mass consumerism, maximal efficiency, strip malls, and dehumanizing architecture much like a feedlot.

Humans are more than cattle for the economy.

We all have to eat, we have many options on where to shop, what we eat, etc. I have not been dehumanized by any architecture. We gather at are homes, not the store.....
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Old 04-18-2020, 11:47 AM
 
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Go Costco...going there this afternoon.
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Old 04-18-2020, 01:10 PM
 
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That's my point, its the cultural venue from which friends and family gather. It contextualizes our social relationships, but also reinforces values that you may not support.

Mass consumerism, maximal efficiency, strip malls, and dehumanizing architecture much like a feedlot.

Humans are more than cattle for the economy.
Maximal efficiency isn't necessarily a bad thing, though.

Let's get concrete - I'd still like to hear the much-superior alternative for purchasing a blender. Sure, I can pay $450 for the same blender in an upscale kitchen supply boutique with a color scheme in delicate eggshell and pastels, but the person behind the counter is likely to be paid worse than the Costco counterpart and I would have to work longer at my job to get the blender I want, so where's the upside? I'd rather spend that time enjoying blended margaritas on my patio.

I think it's fair to say that we've heard your critique - so where's the preferred alternative?
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Old 04-18-2020, 01:17 PM
 
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Old 04-18-2020, 01:30 PM
 
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Go Costco...going there this afternoon.
Yeah, I think for those of us that actually have to shop, pay for and prepare our own food (and for others in our household) without having someone like our parents still helping with some (or most) aspects of that...we tend to lose our snobbishness towards places like Costco.

Some posts around this forum carry with them the lingering smell of trustfunds and/or moms house\purse.
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Old 04-18-2020, 01:35 PM
 
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I appreciate a Wayne Dyer quote although I have no clue who he is.

'The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about.'

Picking on Costco to demonstrate consumerism and target marketing tells me you picked the wrong store.

I get your concern. Americans changed from citizens to consumers about 50 years ago.

Perhaps this virus stay at home exercise will help us see what we can get along without.

Will you then criticize me for hoarding money?
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Old 04-18-2020, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Maximal efficiency isn't necessarily a bad thing, though.

Let's get concrete - I'd still like to hear the much-superior alternative for purchasing a blender. Sure, I can pay $450 for the same blender in an upscale kitchen supply boutique with a color scheme in delicate eggshell and pastels, but the person behind the counter is likely to be paid worse than the Costco counterpart and I would have to work longer at my job to get the blender I want, so where's the upside? I'd rather spend that time enjoying blended margaritas on my patio.

I think it's fair to say that we've heard your critique - so where's the preferred alternative?
It's not necessarily, but it shouldn't be a primary motive to the structure of our society.

Convenience stores, road side strip malls, credit exchanges, and warehouse models are all made to increase time usage in increasing economic activity.

There is more to life than that, and saying their are extenuating circumstances that make that the best model for people ignores the feedback loop from which a consumer heavy society increases cost and debt burden on families, and how organization increases expenses.

I don't have all the answers, but it bothers me when something so lacking becomes an icon of American life.

As for worker pay, the problem is more that adults with kids need such wages to live off of working as store clerks. Getting Costco to pay $15 isn't an alternative to that problem or a solution.

I just want people to ask when type of virtues, systems of livings, and aesthetics should define our country, and few I think would have wanted a traffic heavy model where people with little time are herded in and out of a grey warehouse.
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Old 04-18-2020, 02:09 PM
 
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It's not necessarily, but it shouldn't be a primary motive to the structure of our society.

Convenience stores, road side strip malls, credit exchanges, and warehouse models are all made to increase time usage in increasing economic activity.

There is more to life than that, and saying their are extenuating circumstances that make that the best model for people ignores the feedback loop from which a consumer heavy society increases cost and debt burden on families, and how organization increases expenses.

I don't have all the answers, but it bothers me when something so lacking becomes an icon of American life.

As for worker pay, the problem is more that adults with kids need such wages to live off of working as store clerks. Getting Costco to pay $15 isn't an alternative to that problem or a solution.

I just want people to ask when type of virtues, systems of livings, and aesthetics should define our country, and few I think would have wanted a traffic heavy model where people with little time are herded in and out of a grey warehouse.

Many of Costco's non-management employees are making close to $60k a year with very generous benefits. They even give health and life insurance to part time employees, including vision and dental.

And for the last time - the warehouse clubs are not grey. They have never been grey in the nearly 40 years they have been open.



Next time you may want to research a company before starting a thread to bash them.
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