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Old 05-27-2020, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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Also times have changed. In the 60's R & D in aviation, technology was primarily all government.

Now we have a solid private sector conducting this work. I doubt we will see much innovation from 'NASA' itself this time around. It will be private sector selling it to govt......

And for what purpose.

I do think that there is some concern for security, etc. but I'm not sure what can be done legitimately at an 'international space station'.........so I'm confused as to what the goals are.
I have to disagree with this. NASA/ Government have always subcontracted into the private sector.

I'm a Grumman baby still on Long Island. The Lunar Landers were made here by not government, but the Grumman Corporation that engineered and assembled them, as well as a TON of some of the greatest aircraft of the 20th century!

The notion that NASA is just some National bureaucracy that hammers out government rockets and aircraft in their government machine shops and hangers is short sighted, yet prevalent, in this never ending argument.

imo
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Old 05-27-2020, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Let's do Saturday at 3.22pm for this launch again. I'm tired of us paying Russia $85 million per seat for us to fly an astronaut.


That being said, man launching from Florida in the afternoon is a $hit show with their thunderstorms!
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Old 05-27-2020, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Oxygen + Kerosene. Lightning bad...
Yep. Not a good combo.

Last edited by Pilot1; 05-27-2020 at 03:39 PM..
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Old 05-27-2020, 03:29 PM
 
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Gotta rely on private industry and Russia to propel our space program since we let the politicians ruin NASA. But we got identity politics!
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Old 05-27-2020, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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I have to disagree with this. NASA/ Government have always subcontracted into the private sector.

I'm a Grumman baby still on Long Island. The Lunar Landers were made here by not government, but the Grumman Corporation that engineered and assembled them, as well as a TON of some of the greatest aircraft of the 20th century!

The notion that NASA is just some National bureaucracy that hammers out government rockets and aircraft in their government machine shops and hangers is short sighted, yet prevalent, in this never ending argument.

imo
Well yes, specifically the difference being discussed is a difference in federal contracting methods, fixed price contracts to the commercial companies are the new way of doing business.
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Old 05-27-2020, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Yep. Plus LH2. Not a good combo.
This launch vehicle does not have LH2.
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Old 05-27-2020, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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Well yes, specifically the difference being discussed is a difference in federal contracting methods, fixed price contracts to the commercial companies are the new way of doing business.
If you could expound on that point would be appreciated. Budgets are budgets, right?
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Old 05-27-2020, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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This launch vehicle does not have LH2.
Thanks. Some do. Do you have a spec sheet on it?
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Old 05-27-2020, 03:42 PM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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Gotta rely on private industry and Russia to propel our space program since we let the politicians ruin NASA. But we got identity politics!
Indeed....Obama put NASA on a flight to nowhere. On the long list of disasters Trump is endeavoring to fix.
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Old 05-27-2020, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Does Dragon even have an "SCE to AUX" switch?
Fellow Geeks UNITE! Love it
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