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"A general summary of U.S. immigration terminology follows."
Alien - An individual who is not a U.S. citizen or U.S. national. U.S. National - An individual who owes his sole allegiance to the United States, including all U.S. citizens, and including some individuals who are not U.S. citizens. U.S. Citizen - An individual with US Citizenship. Compacts of Free Association - (too much to post, check link) Immigrant - An alien who has been granted the right by the USCIS to reside permanently in the United States and to work without restrictions in the United States. Nonimmigrant - An alien who has been granted the right to reside temporarily in the United States. Undocumented Alien - An alien who entered the United States illegally without the proper authorization and documents, or who entered the United States legally and has since violated the terms of his or her visa or overstayed the time limit.
Thanks for the info. It forced me to look up the official terms.
The IRS has the last one wrong though. There is no such term as an "undocumented alien" in our lawful immigration terminology. They are illegal aliens.
Yeah, that’s the hogwash the leftists come up with in their defense of illegals - while of course insisting they’re not in support of illegal immigration: you’ll pay more for lettuce! What they ignore is that we will have tons more money available to pay an extra 10 cents a head once we no longer have to pay for their multiple kids educations, ESOL classs, free lunches, and subsidized housing*.
*yes, illegals get subsidized housing if if they Anchor baby, prorated according to how many Baby citizens they produced. That means that not only do Americans have to pay for illegals’ housing, the illegal immigrants often get subsidized housing ahead of honest Americans on the list.
We're not talking about illegal immigrants here.... I live in Washington state, which has a huge apple, cherry, pear, etc. industry. They hire legal seasonal workers from Mexico to come and pick those. They have tried hiring locals, they have tried not using the Mexican labor but they literally cannot get enough people- it's very, very hard work and very few people have been interested. If this keeps up throughout the summer, the farmers here will have trouble getting crops harvested. There are no machines to do what these people do.
We're not talking about illegal immigrants here.... I live in Washington state, which has a huge apple, cherry, pear, etc. industry. They hire legal seasonal workers from Mexico to come and pick those. They have tried hiring locals, they have tried not using the Mexican labor but they literally cannot get enough people- it's very, very hard work and very few people have been interested. If this keeps up throughout the summer, the farmers here will have trouble getting crops harvested. There are no machines to do what these people do.
They struggle to hire people for the wages they want to pay, if they weren't allowed to use cheap immigrant labor, they'd be forced to pay workers more.....which would be a good thing for workers.
Cheap immigrant labor, both legal and illegal, hurts local workers.
They struggle to hire people for the wages they want to pay, if they weren't allowed to use cheap immigrant labor, they'd be forced to pay workers more.....which would be a good thing for workers.
Cheap immigrant labor, both legal and illegal, hurts local workers.
No, they tried this even with decent pay.... they tried offering $15/hour for people to pick apples. Good pay for that kind of work- and were not able to get enough people to get the job done. Sure, maybe they could offer $30/hr to pick apples and a lot more people would be interested, but that is not realistic- then nobody could afford to buy apples given how the prices would skyrocket.
No, they tried this even with decent pay.... they tried offering $15/hour for people to pick apples. Good pay for that kind of work- and were not able to get enough people to get the job done. Sure, maybe they could offer $30/hr to pick apples and a lot more people would be interested, but that is not realistic- then nobody could afford to buy apples given how the prices would skyrocket.
Why is it not realistic? The only reason it's "not realistic" is because there's always the option of hiring essentially a slave class to do the job. If that isn't an option, it would eventually work itself out. Pay would go up, the price of apples would go up, but the work would get done...or if there's no market for that product at that price, they'd need to shift to producing something else.
Keeping the slave class as a viable alternative only harms American workers to benefit large producers.
Why does trump call covid 19 the “invisible enemy?” Everyone saw this thing coming 3 months in advance.
To paraphrase Trump, he called it the invisible enemy because it is our enemy and it is invisible. You can walk into a room of ten people who look in perfect health, only two of them are asymptomatic carriers and highly infectious, but you can't tell by looking. Thus the threat is invisible.
The $100 billion number you keep throwing out there from FAIR has been soundly debunked over and over again. It is basically the cost of services provided to undocumented immigrants and their families without any accounting for most of the contributions made by undocumented immigrants, using arbitrary cut-off points, and counting services provided to US citizens.
It is your liberally biased CATO that has been debunked. If anything, the $100 Billion is low because it doesn't even include deflated wages, crime, and other intangibles.
The IRS has the last one wrong though. There is no such term as an "undocumented alien" in our lawful immigration terminology. They are illegal aliens.
Actually, it's been pointed out on these forums that there's several legal documents using undocumented alien as the official term. It's also been pointed out repeatedly that the IRS and other federal agencies are correct and that you are wrong. You being wrong is for another thread, however.
Actually, it's been pointed out on these forums that there's several legal documents using undocumented alien as the official term. It's also been pointed out repeatedly that the IRS and other federal agencies are correct and that you are wrong. You being wrong is for another thread, however.
This thread is about documented immigrants.
Undocumented alien, illegal alien, let's just compromise and call them criminals.
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