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I've said before they're changing, but their record needs to be dealt with.
Since before even Reagan, republicans and the federalist society, along with their army of think tanks, have set out to destroy American nationalism.
Sure they wrapped themselves with the flag, but fools like Erick Erickson and Mark Levin dedicated their voices to preaching competitive markets, which just means allowing private equity to control what labor is productive, while determining national good by international supply chains.
They destroyed traditional community structures, and have left a base population living in the suburbs of Dallas or specialized farming company that relies on free trade to survive. All the while they are told to shop at their big box-mart store for Chinese made goods to keep the equity market afloat.
Democrats are rootless cosmopolitans who want cheap migrant labor to keep their farming and schools competitive and have everyone else move to a big city, but they don't claim to be conservatives.
Republicans do which make their crimes all the more egregious.
I've said before they're changing, but their record needs to be dealt with.
Since before even Reagan, republicans and the federalist society, along with their army of think tanks, have set out to destroy American nationalism.
Sure they wrapped themselves with the flag, but fools like Erick Erickson and Mark Levin dedicated their voices to preaching competitive markets, which just means allowing private equity to control what labor is productive, while determining national good by international supply chains.
They destroyed traditional community structures, and have left a base population living in the suburbs of Dallas or specialized farming company that relies on free trade to survive. All the while they are told to shop at their big box-mart store for Chinese made goods to keep the equity market afloat.
Democrats are rootless cosmopolitans who want cheap migrant labor to keep their farming and schools competitive and have everyone else move to a big city, but they don't claim to be conservatives.
Republicans do which make their crimes all the more egregious.
Yes, conservatism has changed by moving further and further to the right.
They left behind the center, which has been claimed and occupied by the liberals.
Case in point, universal healthcare was a Republican idea. First adopted by a Republican governor. It's a good centrist policy. Then the Republicans moved further to the right and thought UHC is evil. Fine, Democrats took it and now UHC is a Democratic thing.
Why they keep moving toward the extreme right? I would be interested to hear people's theory.
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I've said before they're changing, but their record needs to be dealt with.
Since before even Reagan, republicans and the federalist society, along with their army of think tanks, have set out to destroy American nationalism.
Sure they wrapped themselves with the flag, but fools like Erick Erickson and Mark Levin dedicated their voices to preaching competitive markets, which just means allowing private equity to control what labor is productive, while determining national good by international supply chains.
They destroyed traditional community structures, and have left a base population living in the suburbs of Dallas or specialized farming company that relies on free trade to survive. All the while they are told to shop at their big box-mart store for Chinese made goods to keep the equity market afloat.
Democrats are rootless cosmopolitans who want cheap migrant labor to keep their farming and schools competitive and have everyone else move to a big city, but they don't claim to be conservatives.
Republicans do which make their crimes all the more egregious.
Blame goldwater for switching the conservative base from democrats to Republicans.
Republicans have spent that past 4 decades destroying conservatism
Maybe. But I am never going to vote for a liberal, even though I think they may have it right.
What they have right:
They evidently believe that the ordinary common man will not think for himself and will not, as I say, "take care of business". The ordinary common man will drift along through life taking what is delivered to him and even asking for more to be delivered. He won't provide for his own retirement, won't take care of his health, won't provide health care insurance, car insurance or many of the other things that 2020 man in America needs. So they baby sit him and provide what he needs for him.
Largely, I believe, they are right. The ordinary citizen cannot get out of his own way.
But liberals go too far.
What they get wrong:
There are enough strong willed, resolute, independent, "can do" people in America to provide for the huge numbers of "will nots". The Can Do's have no problem pulling the train, so to speak. They don't mind, and in fact enjoy pulling hard for everyone else, and bearing a little more of the load. It is who they are and they are proud of their strength. Liberals don't know this, so they attempt to emasculate every citizen, and subjugate him as well. Liberal leaders believe that they, and they alone have exclusive possession of good ideas and power and that they (the leaders) must dole out favors to everyone.
Liberals have no understanding of the Can Do mentality so they make no provision for Can Do's. They think everyone is like them.
Is conservatism destroyed?
Don't know. Don't care.
I'm never going to vote for a liberal.
Yes, conservatism has changed by moving further and further to the right.
They left behind the center, which has been claimed and occupied by the liberals.
Case in point, universal healthcare was a Republican idea. First adopted by a Republican governor. It's a good centrist policy. Then the Republicans moved further to the right and thought UHC is evil. Fine, Democrats took it and now UHC is a Democratic thing.
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Absurd, as the Democrats are the ones who have gone far left. They wouldn't recognize the "center" as anything short of hard core conservatism.
Why?
Simple, because most of the moderates have fled the party, or are no longer in charge. The last prominent Democrat who could have claimed being moderate was Jim Webb in the 2016 campaign.
Needless to say he didn't have a chance, as Hillary and Bernie were trying to outflank each other on the left.
I have also pointed out how if you go back to even the 1990's when Bill Clinton was potus, the (D) platform was much more to the center than where the (D's) are today.
As to the (R's), most of their platform has been pretty much the same. If you don't believe it, look at the (R) platform of the Reagan era compared with now.
You will see the Democrats have moved much more than the Republicans have.
It seems the terms “conservatism” and “liberalism” mean many different meanings to different people. So how can anyone have meaningful discussions about those topics if there is little agreement on what those terms mean.
I thought “conservatism” meant support for traditional values and hierarchies, and support for business interests (as opposed to labor and consumer interests).
I thought liberalism was basically the opposite: against traditional values and hierarchies, and supporting labor and consumer interests.
Republicans have nearly abandoned all of the basic precepts of conservativism, but to be fair it was never about conservatism, per se, it was always about power and wealth.
The wealthy needed an advocate, and the party provided that. The party needed funding, and the wealthy provided that. Perfectly symbiotic.
Everything else was wedge issues, various grievances (real or imagined) to be exploited to gain the support of enough working class people to move their pro-wealth/pro global corporation agenda forward. That's what the political consultants and pundits are for.
Well, the wedge issue extremists have taken control of the party, and now it is nothing more than a chaotic mess.
It seems the terms “conservatism” and “liberalism” mean many different meanings to different people. So how can anyone have meaningful discussions about those topics if there is little agreement on what those terms mean.
I thought “conservatism” meant support for traditional values and hierarchies, and support for business interests (as opposed to labor and consumer interests).
I thought liberalism was basically the opposite: against traditional values and hierarchies, and supporting labor and consumer interests.
Thoughts?
I take conservatism to mean support for traditional structures, with each class playing it's role.
Globalism, free markets, and disruptive tech have destroyed this consensus.
Absurd, as the Democrats are the ones who have gone far left. They wouldn't recognize the "center" as anything short of hard core conservatism.
Why?
Simple, because most of the moderates have fled the party, or are no longer in charge. The last prominent Democrat who could have claimed being moderate was Jim Webb in the 2016 campaign.
Needless to say he didn't have a chance, as Hillary and Bernie were trying to outflank each other on the left.
I have also pointed out how if you go back to even the 1990's when Bill Clinton was potus, the (D) platform was much more to the center than where the (D's) are today.
As to the (R's), most of their platform has been pretty much the same. If you don't believe it, look at the (R) platform of the Reagan era compared with now.
You will see the Democrats have moved much more than the Republicans have.
Absurd.
If Reagan is alive today, he would call himself a liberal.
Yes, that was because he was a globalist and wanted cheap labor for farms in California and Texas.
I remember so called 'liberals' being interviewed in Los Angeles about illegal immigration, and they made the argument along the lines of "who will pick our avacadoes?".
This market first approach of thinking is do devoid of logic and emotion, it leads to people saying "they do jobs we don't".
Who is we? Mexican immigrants don't want to work as slave labor on our fields so we can have cheap produce in the grocery store, and they didn't want NAFTA opening the gates to wall street investors and chemical companies destroying their indigenous farm land in the south.
But this is the ideology that drives democrats and republicans.
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