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It’s impossible to believe he had not been told that COVID-19 was at least 10 times more deadly than the flu, or that it was passed human to human with a just touch or a cough.
The Chinese government declared that human-to-human transmission was impossible, and kept saying it until Jan. 20, 2020. The World Health Organization did the same.
If President Trump had taken radial steps before then, the same people bashing now for not taking them, would have been bashing him even harder back then if he HAD take radical steps.
When he banned travel from China to the US in late January, fanatics such as those bashing now in this thread, were calling him Racist, Xenophobic etc. for doing the exact things they are now bashing him for not doing enough of.
As I said earlier in this thread, the 20-minute memories of those who claim to be concerned that Trump "didn't do enough", is the fanatics' main asset.
How Donald Trump failed at the single most important task of the Oval Office: keeping the American people safe from harm.
Trump knew all this. In fact, he knew a lot more. He had been getting daily intelligence reports for two months, warning him about the risk of a pandemic. It’s impossible to believe he had not been told that COVID-19 was at least 10 times more deadly than the flu, or that it was passed human to human with a just touch or a cough. A top White House adviser had already warned that a full-blown pandemic could imperil the lives of millions of Americans. Virtually every public-health expert in the world was speaking out, warning politicians and community leaders what was about to hit us.
Nevertheless, since the moment the outbreak was first publicized in January, Trump had been doing nothing but downplaying it. To him, the pandemic was merely another plot to sabotage him. “They’re trying to scare everybody . . . cancel the meetings, close the schools — you know, destroy the country,” he told his guests that weekend. “And that’s OK, as long as we can win the election.”
While I don’t agree with the entire article it bears much truth.
Trump did not create it. Trump cannot control it. Trump cannot cure it.
No country was prepared for a once in a hundred year global pandemic.
I don’t buy into “ cupboards were bare” nonsense Trump uses as an excuse. Stockpiles age out and must be continuously maintained at a level deemed reasonably appropriate. Trump has been in office 3 + years. Stockpiles were not a priority. It is what it is.
We all watched Wuhan and then Italy and could not imagine it could happen here- a collective failure to imagine.
The mixed messaging out of Trump took the country along on Mr Toad’s Wild Ride- Trump’s emotional roller coaster.
Pitting states into competition with each other and FEMA was insanity. It ended up costing everyone more.
I don’t know how the testing ball was dropped by CDC. I don’t know how it is Trump said “ if you want a test, you can get a test and did so within minutes of Pence announcing “ there are not enough tests”.
The returning Princess Cruise ship passengers were forced into quarantine, even after testing negative. The overwhelming majority of these passengers remained virus free. Yet, millions of US people flew to the US from China and then hot spots in Europe and no one blinked an eye. Contract tracing does not work well in a country of 325 million people, some of whom perceive invasion of privacy.
There is no lock down in the US. People are free to leave their homes. And unfortunately, that includes those who test positive.
There will eventually be postmortems at city, county, state and country level to determine what worked vs not.
I do remember some democrats crying foul when Trump decided to shut the borders to Chinese travelers -- they even suggested he was xenophobic for doing so.
Well, he kinda is. It's not like it's a big secret. The reason for the knee-jerk reactions is because he has been showing xenophobic tendencies for many years, so this just looked like the same old same old. Remember that he had access to information that wasn't shared, and he didn't explain the reason for his actions sufficiently before implementing them. He didn't even give a head's up to the European governments before he slammed that door shut. So what are people expected to believe? His steady stream of lies, or behavior based upon his past actions?
Remember that he had access to information that wasn't shared, and he didn't explain the reason for his actions sufficiently before implementing them. He didn't even give a head's up to the European governments before he slammed that door shut. So what are people expected to believe? His steady stream of lies, or behavior based upon his past actions?
Yes, everyone - democrat or republican - knew from the January 24, 2020 Senate Intelligence Briefings
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The New York Post is reporting “Sens. Dianne Feinstein and Jim Inhofe sold as much as $6.4 million worth of stock in the weeks before panic about the coronavirus sparked a worldwide selloff, according to disclosure filings first reported by the New York Times. The additional revelations came amid widespread outrage toward GOP Sens. Richard Burr and Kelly Loeffler, who reportedly sold shares after getting briefings on the coronavirus threat.”
If the EU, with the rising death rates in Spain and Italy, didn't think we would shut our borders when the EU was already closed their borders?
Trump has, BY FAR, had the easiest presidency of the 21st century. Bush had 9/11 not even a year after taking office, and two wars for most of his 8 year presidency. Barack Obama inherited a recession, a housing crisis, and two wars from Bush.
Trump, on the other hand, inherited a booming economy from Barack Obama, which had seen four years of straight growth when Donald was sworn in. The two wars that Bush & Obama had to deal with were pretty much over. Trump has also not had any new major terrorist attacks to deal with.
All that to say, in his three years as president, COVID-19 is the first real crisis he's had to deal with. The first true test of his ability to lead. And Trump has failed miserably.
How Donald Trump failed at the single most important task of the Oval Office: keeping the American people safe from harm.
And how does the President keep 330 million people, who are free to move about and engage in voluntary interactions, safe from a virus? List the actions that the President, specifically, can take to immunize 330 million people to keep them 100% safe from a particular sickness. By all means, explain that to me.
I ask because if there is some executive power that can be exercised such that he can keep 330 million people safe from one disease, it would stand to the EXACT SAME REASONING that those powers can be exercised to eliminate ALL disease entirely. And also, if he has that power, then all 44 of his predecessors possessed that power as well, and none of them managed to eliminate disease with this power they apparently possess.
Trump has, BY FAR, had the easiest presidency of the 21st century. Bush had 9/11 not even a year after taking office, and two wars for most of his 8 year presidency. Barack Obama inherited a recession, a housing crisis, and two wars from Bush.
Trump, on the other hand, inherited a booming economy from Barack Obama, which had seen four years of straight growth when Donald was sworn in. The two wars that Bush & Obama had to deal with were pretty much over. Trump has also not had any new major terrorist attacks to deal with.
All that to say, in his three years as president, COVID-19 is the first real crisis he's had to deal with. The first true test of his ability to lead. And Trump has failed miserably.
The intelligence community knew Islamic terrorist were going to attack the World Trade Center again. Many nations had told Bush about their intelligence information & the Israelis were in New Jersey with camera pointed at the WTC to record the attacks.
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In December 1998, the CIA's Counterterrorist Center reported to President Bill Clinton that al-Qaeda was preparing for attacks in the U.S. that might include hijacking aircraft.
Another warning came from Ahmad Shah Massoud, leader of the anti-Taliban Northern Alliance, in April 2001, in a speech before the European Parliament in Brussels, Belgium where he asked for humanitarian aid to the people of Afghanistan. Massoud told the parliament that his intelligence agents had gained limited knowledge about a large-scale terrorist attack on U.S. soil being imminent. Massoud was assassinated by al-Qaeda two days before the 9/11 attacks on September 9, 2001.
On May 1, 2001, the CIA informed the White House that "a group presently in the United States" was in the process of planning a terrorist attack.
The President's Daily Brief on June 29, 2001, stated that "[the United States] is not the target of a disinformation campaign by Osama Bin Laden". The document repeated evidence surrounding the threat, "including an interview that month with a Middle Eastern journalist in which Bin Laden aides warned of a coming attack, as well as competitive pressures that the terrorist leader was feeling, given the number of Islamists being recruited for the separatist Russian region of Chechnya."
The CIA reiterated that the attacks were anticipated to be near-term and have "dramatic consequences". In July 2001, J. Cofer Black, CIA's counterterrorism chief and George Tenet, CIA's director, met with Condoleezza Rice, the National Security Advisor, to inform her about communications intercepts and other top-secret intelligence showing the increasing likelihood that al-Qaeda would soon attack the United States.
On August 6, 2001, the President's Daily Briefing, entitled Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US warned that bin Laden was planning to exploit his operatives' access to the U.S. to mount a terrorist strike: FBI information... indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country, consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attack.
Bush started two wars knowing that Iraq was not involved.
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A movement of high-minded ideologues had, throughout the 1990s, become obsessed with deposing Saddam Hussein. When they assumed positions of power under Bush in 2001, they did not seek to trick America into that war, but rather tricked themselves. In 9/11, and in fragments of intelligence that more objective minds would have rejected, they could see only validation for their abstract and untested theories about the world — theories whose inevitable and obvious conclusion was an American invasion of Iraq.
President Bush is by far the worse US president ever. Trump, like every EU nation was not ready for this coronavirus. No one could have predicted this.
given the choice between living with COVID19 moving thru society with no mitigation or living in a world run by progressives, I will take the less dangerous.... Gimme Covid19.
given the choice between living with COVID19 moving thru society with no mitigation or living in a world run by progressives, I will take the less dangerous.... Gimme Covid19.
gives us a better chance at survival.
Agreed. I'll gladly take freedom and the virus instead of socialism. It's absolutely creepy watching all these loser progressives coming out of the woodwork advocating for "cures" that are far worse and likely deadly than the virus itself.
How Donald Trump failed at the single most important task of the Oval Office: keeping the American people safe from harm.
I don't think he failed at all. I don't think keeping the American people safe was ever his goal. Whatever his goal was, I think he came pretty close to succeeding.
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