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Of course they provoked a violent situation. They chased him down with guns. Even cut him off with their car. The first act of violence in this situation was from them.
You just cannot go ahead and chase down anyone with guns, and use your car as a weapon, because you like being a cop. And if it goes south as it did here, it should be your butt in jail.
Exactly. That they chased him up and down the neighborhood and cut him off means that they were intent on a confrontation. Then jumping out of the vehicle and running toward him while he was trying to run away...they were intent on violence.
3 minutes is hardly hanging out. And many people go in to check out construction sites, they generally don't end up being hunted and killed though.
This. There is nothing abnormal about what he did. It just looks like he stopped and caught his breath for awhile. Looked around at the construction and then kept going. No big deal.
This. There is nothing abnormal about what he did. It just looks like he stopped and caught his breath for awhile. Looked around at the construction and then kept going. No big deal.
I'll just add that the house wasn't under construction in that way. Rather, from the looks of things, it appeared to been under renovation. And Ahmaud appears to have gone into the house. We clearly come from different places as it is not normal anywhere where I've lived for someone to go into a home being renovated without invitation for any period of time.
Of course, such a point is moot legally speaking here as the McMichaels knew nothing about Ahmaud going into the house. I just disagree that what he did was normal. It certainly doesn't appear to have been legal.
Edit: I saw footage of the video of a man who presumably Ahmaud inside of the house in question. It does appear to have been under construction vs. just being renovated; if it was being renovated, it was a gut renovation. Still, again, its clear we come from different places. What he did is not normal anywhere that I have lived.
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I agree that more law abiding citizens should carry firearms. Unfortunately, many people in this country still live in areas where it is functionally illegal to carry a firearm on your person.
This. There is nothing abnormal about what he did. It just looks like he stopped and caught his breath for awhile. Looked around at the construction and then kept going. No big deal.
While my house was being built, I walked in other homes at various stages of construction. A lot of people do. I don't know why Arbery walked in that house, but people trying to make such actions sound abnormal are either lying or have no experience.
The fact of the matter is Old Man McMichaels claims he recognized Arbery. Well good, that means he could have just called it in.
What is absolutely abnormal is chasing someone in a truck while carrying loaded shotguns. Now that is absolutely strange behavior.
I'll just add that the house wasn't under construction in that way. Rather, from the looks of things, it appeared to been under renovation. And Ahmaud appears to have gone into the house. We clearly come from different places as it is not normal anywhere where I've lived for someone to go into a home being renovated without invitation for any period of time.
Of course, such a point is moot legally speaking here as the McMichaels knew nothing about Ahmaud going into the house. I just disagree that what he did was normal. It certainly doesn't appear to have been legal.
The house was gutted. Further, if you listen to the call to the police about him in the house, the caller said he was not breaking in but that the house was OPEN and under construction.
Several mass shootings have ended by an unarmed person charging an armed person. Fight or flight kicks in.
Example being the waffle house mass shooting.
Completely different circumstances.
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