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I've been telling my husband for years that Trump was never going to be able to drain the swamp. But his presidency (both directly and indirectly) has certainly served to expose it.
I said it once on here last week and I will say it again - picture America with a Hillary Clinton presidency (and what information we would and would not now know). And then picture America with an Obama, Clinton, then Biden presidency. Would YOU want to live in that America?
The Federal Bureaucracy is one of our wort enemies followed by State Bureaucracies. Trump knows this, but he can not fix it in a few short years. Government's only job is to sustain and grow itself. That's all.
Throw Comey, Strzok, and the rest of them behind bars and that should be sufficient deterrence to ensure it doesn't happen again.
Sure. Go ahead and bring them to trial. Why don't they? It is Trump's Justice Department. They have access to all of the evidence they need to try these people.
They don't because there is nothing. The same way after 40 months, Trump still hasn't "locked her up!" There was no crime to even ATTEMPT to try her. It is all bluster to keep Republicans behind Trump. Make up a common enemy and Republicans simply fall in line.
The 2020 enemy is the Chinese. It was Mexico before. Not much movement on that front. Once Trump was elected, he didn't really do anything against this "common enemy." Mexico was a red herring in 2016 and 50M Americans fell for it. Will they fall for it a second time?
If this was Trump doing the same thing you accuse Obama of, you would be cheering and jumping up and down. And you know it, and we know it.
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Hypocrisy has no party. When it comes to politics, we are all hypocrites.
Dont tell me if it was Trump doing the same thing that Obama is being accused of, that you would not be calling for his arrrest and conviction.
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Trump HAS done all of that and more. And, yes, he should have been kicked to the curb long ago, but he has his equally complicit GOP buddies there to cover for him. But everything has it's limits, and his day is coming.
I think he did it but, no, I would not support his arrest or his conviction. Expose it all you want, and some of the governmental players should end up in court themselves, but we are not a banana republic that throws its former leaders into jail. I feel the same way in reference to anything, short of 1st degree murder, for Clinton, Bush, and Trump also. Yeah, they get a free pass. Sucks, but at least they are egotistical enough that they’ll weep for the loss of their legacy.
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I think he did it but, no, I would not support his arrest or his conviction. Expose it all you want, and some of the governmental players should end up in court themselves, but we are not a banana republic that throws its former leaders into jail. I feel the same way in reference to anything, short of 1st degree murder, for Clinton, Bush, and Trump also. Yeah, they get a free pass. Sucks, but at least they are egotistical enough that they’ll weep for the loss of their legacy.
That's quite a comical observation. IL has had four governors go to prison for the crimes they committed. Obama's political experience was solely from dirty, corrupt as hell IL.
I've been telling my husband for years that Trump was never going to be able to drain the swamp. But his presidency (both directly and indirectly) has certainly served to expose it.
I said it once on here last week and I will say it again - picture America with a Hillary Clinton presidency (and what information we would and would not now know). And then picture America with an Obama, Clinton, then Biden presidency. Would YOU want to live in that America?
Would Biden have eliminated the Pandemic Office like mean girl did in 2018 because we can't have anything that Obama created no matter how good for the country, right. So you like living like this with rags on your face and a third world response?
Look, the Republican's admitted that Trump is guilty as charged of the charges of his impeachment. The Republican's also said that it was just peachy. Trump could be as dirty and corrupt as he wants. So what if tens of thousands of American's die because of Trump's botched, disinformation, messaging vs response to a pandemic. That's all fine right? The Senate said so.
Obama be charged for crimes? Certainly, but not manufactured crimes by a despot wanna be that didn't like the IG reports and hired corrupt yes man Barr to do his bidding.
You want to ignore Trump and his corruption yet go after his political look over there scapegoat? Pathetic.
I find it very unlikley that a President of the United States will be arrested for anything, ever, no matter of partisan. Its very bad for PR.
If anyone should have been arrested it would have been Bush due to torture, and lying to get US into Iraq war, but as Obama said on day one, there would be no such investigations because the focus needs to be forward. He also knew that presidents have immunity against prosecution. Maybe someone needs to tell that to Trump too.
the democrats need to know they cannot do what the Obama team did. you cannot use the intelligence agencies to run ops on your political opponents.
they absolutely did that.
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