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People like you always have these long winded reasons to try and explain why we aren’t seeing what we are seeing.
There was no need to keep a knee on his neck that long. If that was a dog and not a Black man you guys would be furious.
TRANSLATION: I can't refute anything you said, but I hate it anyway. So I'll call it names, and make up some lies about what "you guys" think and bash you for those. Easier than thinking.
TRANSLATION: I can't refute anything you said, but I hate it anyway. So I'll call it names, and make up some lies about what "you guys" think and bash you for those. Easier than thinking.
No names or lies.. well, except for the one you just told about my post.
EDITED TO ADD: I could finally open it. It starts with him crumpled in a corner, on the ground, handcuffed, and a cop appears to be gently trying to get him to stand up. He appears GREATLY impaired, although not resisting - he just appears that even walking forward is difficult. Finally two cops are able to get him to stand and he's being led to the squad car, carefully. They get him nearly to the squad car when they veer a little out of range of the camera, although the open squad car door is in camera range, the video clip ends, which is a little useless. I'd like to see the next 10 seconds to see whether he was resisting. I'm guessing he just couldn't quite get into the car, but we can't see it. The good thing is, there IS video for the investigators to watch. I don't believe neck kneeler cop is in this video.
I am on the side of the police 9/10 times but this...I'm speechless.
He was handcuffed. Why why why didn't they just put him in the car?!
I'd guess drugs and perhaps some as yet unknown (to the public) medical conditions contributed to him dying, he wasn't suffocated to death by the policeman, as his speech wasn't even labored but keeping him prone when he was in medical distress, with pressure on the big vessels of the neck may've exacerbated what was already going on with him, medically speaking so contributed to the death...
The demeanor of the cop with his leg on the guy...sickening...seemed to be oddly getting off on the power...
Sorry but this is that rare time that I side with the criminal. Very upsetting video.
You said the exact words of how I felt. I always want to give the cops the benefit of the doubt. Hard to in this case. Pretty sure I just witnessed a murder.
While I agree with that narrative generally, the man was cuffed and on the ground and subdued. He did not pose an immediate threat to multiple officers in that state. Not in the sense that he had to have a knee in his neck for minutes. Again, this would be different if the man was not cuffed and high on drugs resisting the cops. But that's not what we are dealing with here.
I know people esp BLM get very agitated about this but where is the outrage in my home town about this
EDITED TO ADD: I could finally open it. It starts with him crumpled in a corner, on the ground, handcuffed, and a cop appears to be gently trying to get him to stand up. He appears GREATLY impaired, although not resisting - he just appears that even walking forward is difficult. Finally two cops are able to get him to stand and he's being led to the squad car, carefully. They get him nearly to the squad car when they veer a little out of range of the camera, although the open squad car door is in camera range, the video clip ends, which is a little useless. I'd like to see the next 10 seconds to see whether he was resisting. I'm guessing he just couldn't quite get into the car, but we can't see it. The good thing is, there IS video for the investigators to watch. I don't believe neck kneeler cop is in this video.
Yeah, it doesn’t add anything helpful other than to show he is impaired in some way.
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Yeah, it doesn’t add anything helpful other than to show he is impaired in some way.
It shows at first, he was treated very gently and respectfully by two cops. Then at some point it all went terribly south. With the exception of his sheer size, and the difficulty that presents when trying to get an impaired person into the back of a car, it doesn't look to me like he could put up much effective resistance at all.
And it shows he was ALREADY handcuffed - neck kneeler hadn't just gone through the throes of trying to handcuff a large strong man and might have been reluctant to free him at the time the bystander video begins. He was handcuffed from the very beginning of that sequence.
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