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Old 06-15-2020, 09:34 AM
 
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No one is required to hire them but if they do they shouldn't fire them base on sex either !!!

It doesn't seem like a big deal, IMO !!!

I can see how desperate the left is for a win on anything but is this the best they can do ?

WE agree -- it shouldn't be a big deal. But it could have been if the Surpreme Court had decided a company could fire someone for being gay.

That's the thing -- most 'equal rights' aren't a BIG deal - or SHOULDN'T be......but the fact some individuals have to take the matter to the Supreme Court for a decision suggests that it still is for some.
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Old 06-15-2020, 09:35 AM
 
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What if you just aren’t hired because someone else is more qualified. What if you are fired because you are not doing your job? Anyone can claim they were discriminated against when in most cases or has nothing to do with your gender identity or sexual orientation.
In order to win protection under this ruling, the plaintiff has the burden of proving that they were fired "because they are gay" by a 'preponderance of the evidence'. It is not up to the defense to disprove that allegation, but by showing that they fired the person for some other reason or cause, that will go a long way towards undermining any such case by the plaintiff.

In any case, who wants to fire someone "because they are gay"? Is that a thing? Really? I do not think it is. Now there may be some odd person out there who might want to do this, or might want to do anything for that manner, regardless of how extremely strange or bizarre that behavior might be. But this is not something that very many people actually think about or want to do.

This reminds me of the claim that Christian merchants broadly are opposed to providing goods and services to people, "because they are gay". That is just not true and it cannot be shown to be true, because it is in fact a lie. Likewise, in secular companies, many of which are owned, operated and staffed by Christians from top to bottom, they do not want to fire people 'because they are gay'. It just is not so.

I do not think this ruling has very much practical effect.
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Old 06-15-2020, 09:36 AM
 
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Wasn't that a settled issue already?
Nope several states had laws banning discrimination of LGBTQ in but in others it was perfectly legal.
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Old 06-15-2020, 09:40 AM
 
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Wasn't that a settled issue already?
Clearly it wasn't.
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Old 06-15-2020, 09:46 AM
 
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Gays won.

Now people who identify as LGBT are a legally protected victim group. It's much more than just legal protection from employment discrimination. This will open the door to federal funding for LGBT organizations, grants for LGBT scholarships and programs, etc.
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Old 06-15-2020, 09:48 AM
 
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Gays won.

Now people who identify as LGBT are a legally protected victim group. It's much more than just legal protection from employment discrimination. This will open the door to federal funding for LGBT organizations, grants for LGBT scholarships and programs, etc.
Get ready for the illogical "Why do you hate LGBT people"
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Old 06-15-2020, 09:48 AM
 
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To the best of my knowledge, in all my years, I cannot recall anyone ever getting fired from any job for "being gay". Nor can I recall anyone wanting to see someone fired for "being gay".

Now if they are socially obnoxious about it, then firing them for that is an entirely different matter, and one that the SCOTUS certainly did not provide protection for with their ruling here today.
Did you read the plaintiff’s petition?
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Old 06-15-2020, 09:49 AM
 
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Remember this case next time you get whipped into a frenzy that some of these moderate, well-respected apointees come up and are transformed by politicians into evil incarnate.
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Old 06-15-2020, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Somewhere gray and damp, close to the West Coast
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Is it? Or is this just another feel good thing? Employers are going to discriminate. This is just another one of those things they won't openly discriminate about, but they'll still do it. You can't legislate thought.

No, they can't legislate thought, as badly as they want to.

And in the meantime, we wait patiently.
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Old 06-15-2020, 09:51 AM
 
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Did you read the plaintiff’s petition?
No.
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