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Old 06-16-2020, 09:29 AM
 
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Based upon the current volatile. political climate, which has been festering over the past few years, and the current repugnant, cowardly, despicable groupthink mindset regarding the odious BLM, I also believe this once great country is on the ropes.
I think 50 years tops before it breaks up, but perhaps closer to 20 years. Perhaps into 3 or 4 distinct geographic entities.
I have absolutely no faith in the political class, regardless of party; the democrats are certainly onboard with BLM, while many Republicans lack the courage to stand up to it.. All of them are vile poltroons.
The lack of leadership, and the abundance of self serving, gutless time servers in government has led to this, aided and abetted by the mendacious "media", and 40 + years of brainwashing by the education establishment.
Say what you will about Trump, and his many faults, but if the sock puppet Biden is elected, he will nod his empty head yes for everything BLM and it's idiot supporters demand, absent any criticism from what will be left of the Republican party , and certainly none from a gleeful media echo chamber.
The self-loathing, clueless masses may well get what they deserve.
Very well said !
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Old 06-16-2020, 09:30 AM
 
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I thought we were the greatest nation on earth. You seriously think a pandemic and protests/riots are going to end it? Who is being dramatic here...
you only think that because you've been hearing it your whole life.

once the USD ceases being the world reserve currency, we're going to lose that status real quick.
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Old 06-16-2020, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Are we as a nation done? First the Corona hit us then the economic decline sent us to the mat and now the BLM/antifa movement is ready with the knock out blow. We are all hurting in one way or another from the 3 assaults. We have politicians that are frozen in any response out of fear of being called out by the mob and other elected leaders that are siding with the rioters and looters by caving to their demands.



Chaz? Heck the elected in Seattle are calling it the Summer of Love.

The AG in my state said at a rally that "sometimes the forest has to burn to promote new growth". It not her property that is being destroyed and torched..





They like to blame Trump for it all as if this wouldn't have happened under Hillary, reminder we had riots under Obama and he applauded BLM. Do people really think that Biden has all the answers? Do they really think that if elected all this strife will vanish?



The mob is gearing up to run the show right into the ground and our elected are running scared. If you don't kneel fast enough the mob will destroy you. BLM enjoys complete immunity from criticism. One can be fired from their job, or literally beaten up for saying "all lives matter".



Tucker Carlson had an excellent opinion piece last night

https://www.foxnews.com/category/sho...kers-monologue


He talks about the popularity of BLM and how they got there through shaming people and destruction. If you disagree with them they will burn you down. They are beholding to no one and that is scary.



Whether Trump or Biden is in the WH next year this "movement" is not going to stop. They are now shaping our politics by influencing our weak elected to bend to their demands. Are reparations coming down the line?



So what happens when the BLM movement influences our elected to disband the Police and suddenly the criminals can operate without worry?



We have the Corona that is here to stay and now we have a violent movement where the rioters when they are actually arrested they are quickly released and the charges dropped against them. How much of America has to burn? Did you plan on traveling this Summer? Do you have fear of taking a wrong turn off the road and into the middle of a riot or stuck in traffic for hours due to protesters shutting down the road?



It has been a nice run for America but I fear we are done and that is sad because there is so much still to see and do or at least there was.
I watched AXIOS https://www.hbo.com/axios " Hurry up and wait" interviews... eloquent and painful - I am not sure if the links shows the whole thing... but I'm sure can find on HBO - if interested to hear from Black leaders.
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Old 06-16-2020, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Very well said !
opinion of one
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Old 06-16-2020, 09:34 AM
 
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Our nation is afflicted with a nasty form of societal cancer. It is virulently anti-American and it is being fronted by the Democrat left. Call it socialism, progressivism, fascism, Marxism, communism, racism, globalism. They represent each and all of these "isms".

If we can beat this cancer, then we are not done. If we cannot beat it, then democracy will eventually be cast aside and we will go the way of the other socialist regimes that we have seen over the last hundred years. ALL of these regimes ended in totalitarian lockdown control over their people and the elimination of anything like liberty and freedom.

We must exorcise this evil from our society, or we are done. Plain and simple. With God all things are possible.
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Old 06-16-2020, 09:45 AM
 
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Only one segment of the population is saying its all over for US, and that is the die-hard Trump supporters, who actively convince themselves the situation is worse than it is.

Of course it will, and the economy will come back too no matter who is sitting in the WH. Dont listen to the quitters.

I am not a die-hard Trump supporter and I have been shocked by the violence and destruction. I am a bit younger and was not alive for the riots of the 60s and early 70s and, having not seen anything like this before, that likely impacts how I am viewing this. Were you alive to have seen the riots of the 60s and early 70s? How does the level of violence that we are seeing now compare to the riots back then?
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Old 06-16-2020, 09:46 AM
 
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Really? I have not heard a single city getting rid of police. Did you get that from FOX 'News'? I watched FOX the other day and that is what they tried to make it sound like, but it does not seem to be the case in any US city.[/QUOTE

My go-to paper is the Wall Street Journal, but I try to read across the spectrum as much as possible. WSJ has been covering it for weeks. It is happening. Minneapolis has voted to do it. LA has de-funded them to a certain extent. NYC has taken steps. Do you think De-Fund The Police is fake news? It's actually happening.
The left has been noted over and over for lying about their true agenda. Finn is either a sheep who is not up on the news (doubt it) or one of the people who go out and tell lies all over social media.


Some notorious Democrat lies:

KKK was GOP
Civil Rights was Democrats
Womens' right to vote (Democrats)

These are just a sampling.
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Old 06-16-2020, 09:49 AM
 
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Really? I have not heard a single city getting rid of police. Did you get that from FOX 'News'? I watched FOX the other day and that is what they tried to make it sound like, but it does not seem to be the case in any US city.[/QUOTE

My go-to paper is the Wall Street Journal, but I try to read across the spectrum as much as possible. WSJ has been covering it for weeks. It is happening. Minneapolis has voted to do it. LA has de-funded them to a certain extent. NYC has taken steps. Do you think De-Fund The Police is fake news? It's actually happening.
You don’t know what defund means apparently. Because it doesnt mean get rid of.
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Old 06-16-2020, 09:55 AM
 
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Really? I have not heard a single city getting rid of police. Did you get that from FOX 'News'? I watched FOX the other day and that is what they tried to make it sound like, but it does not seem to be the case in any US city.
Have you been ignoring what is going on in Seattle ? One of the 30 plus demands of the peaceful group of individuals that took over a 7 block area is abolishment of the police department.
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Old 06-16-2020, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Georgia
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We have turned a corner we'll never go back from. We can all point fingers- at police, BLM, Politicians, etc. Casting blame is easy, but solutions are not. The real underlying problem is America has backslid so far from our Christian roots. When a nation ignors/mocks God- there is only one other influence available. We are seeing the results. America has become a nation for the ignorant and apathetic.
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