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Old 07-19-2020, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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I’m confused.

The protestors, rioters, looters, arsonist, and anarchists don’t have a vaccine? ANTIFA was tearing down statues and standing on highways.

I guess protesting, oops I mean revolution, for felons just doesn’t last very long when you realize you don’t have a vaccine or any logical goals for said protest.

 
Old 07-19-2020, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I’m confused.

The protestors, rioters, looters, arsonist, and anarchists don’t have a vaccine? ANTIFA was tearing down statues and standing on highways.

I guess protesting, oops I mean revolution, for felons just doesn’t last very long when you realize you don’t have a vaccine or any logical goals for said protest.
You shouldn't be confused, early opening of restaurants, gyms and beauty salons coupled with a lack of testing and no contact tracing and ignoring the guidelines should lead to a predictable result.

But they had this under control in early May, or so they thought.
 
Old 07-19-2020, 05:54 PM
 
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We are now starting to see the effects of the surge from 3-4 weeks ago in Florida. Now the ICUs beds are quickly vanishing due to COVID patients declining and needing intensive care. If their average length of stay in the ICU is 7-14 days, then Florida is headed for a major disaster in the coming weeks as more people from the surge deteriorate while turnaround in ICU remains slow. This is why health officials insist on blunting the curve even if it means closing down the economy temporarily. Literally people with COVID AND without COVID who need ICU will suffer from lack of bed availability and overworked staff. Wake up people.

Just...yikes. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida...n-out-of-beds/
 
Old 07-19-2020, 06:03 PM
 
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Just wait 1 month, 2 months max, and it will burn out here like it did in NYC. It will burn out in Texas too. California it will take longer because of they're shutting down again.

Let this virus rip, so we're finally done with this nonsense. All we're doing now is postponing the inevitable.
Wonder if all those folks waiting for admittance into one of the 49 hospitals in FL with zero ICU beds available would concur?
 
Old 07-19-2020, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Florida
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We are now starting to see the effects of the surge from 3-4 weeks ago in Florida. Now the ICUs beds are quickly vanishing due to COVID patients declining and needing intensive care. If their average length of stay in the ICU is 7-14 days, then Florida is headed for a major disaster in the coming weeks as more people from the surge deteriorate while turnaround in ICU remains slow. This is why health officials insist on blunting the curve even if it means closing down the economy temporarily. Literally people with COVID AND without COVID who need ICU will suffer from lack of bed availability and overworked staff. Wake up people.

Just...yikes. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida...n-out-of-beds/
You're not getting the entire story.

After the initial covid infections... hospitals ( in March) formulated plans for a 3 tier approach for ICU room conversions... including hotel conversions if necessary.

It's not that difficult and hospitals are well equipped to do that. The real issue is personnel.
 
Old 07-19-2020, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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You shouldn't be confused, early opening of restaurants, gyms and beauty salons coupled with a lack of testing and no contact tracing and ignoring the guidelines should lead to a predictable result.

But they had this under control in early May, or so they thought.
They foolishly believed it would go away in warmer weather but it got worse due to being in air conditioning.
 
Old 07-19-2020, 07:01 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Just wait 1 month, 2 months max, and it will burn out here like it did in NYC. It will burn out in Texas too. California it will take longer because of they're shutting down again.

Let this virus rip, so we're finally done with this nonsense. All we're doing now is postponing the inevitable.
NYC went into lockdown when they had 4k cases. They didn't wait till they were over 300k cases to shutdown and this would be giving florida too much credit. How is Florida remotely the same? And make no mistake, nyc is still getting a few hundred cases a day. The virus has not burned out
 
Old 07-20-2020, 04:10 AM
 
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'We need to close down' — Florida reports more than 10,000 coronavirus cases for fifth day
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Florida reported 12,523 new cases of the coronavirus on Saturday, marking the fifth consecutive day the hot-spot state reported more than 10,000 cases, according to the state's health department.

The state has reported more than 11,865 cases of the coronavirus on average over the past seven days, up 28.85% compared with a week ago, according to a CNBC analysis of data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. The Florida Department of Health says the virus has infected more than 350,047 people in the state and killed at least 4,982 people.
 
Old 07-20-2020, 04:38 AM
 
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Disgusting. This Democratic Rep wants to shut things down, against the wishes of her constituents. Little tyrant. I hope she's voted out, but not too many braindead voters just check down party.
 
Old 07-20-2020, 04:49 AM
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The last thing I read, Chicken Little, was 8 out of 25 hospitals were at capacity in Miami-Dade.

What does it mean to be 120% full? Are people being denied beds? Because that ain't happening.
Per this article:
"It is a concern of overwhelming the system. We have 100 ventilators. We’ve got the capacity to significantly increase the ICU beds. And the question is, what staff do we have," said Dr. Kirk Voelker, the critical care specialist at SMH.

https://www.fox13news.com/news/the-w...-vaccine-trial

It's more about the staff than the room and facilities to treat people. They'll just get traveling nurses like NYC did.

https://www.vox.com/2020/7/18/213283...na-texas-miami

Increases seem to be the younger people who continue partying and going out - it's not a political thing - it a generational problem. Younger people just aren't concerned and I get it. When I was in my 20s and 30s - I was not concerned with getting sick.
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