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There is a vaccine for small pox. There is no vaccine for the coronavirus. Not this coronavirus, or any coronavirus, despite the so-called "experts" working for 50 years to produce one. They have never been able to do it and in all liklihood, they will not be able to produce a vaccine for this current and rapidly mutating version of the coronavirus either.
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Originally Posted by Spartacus713
It will 'go away' on its own.
You are conflicting with yourself... not too mention that small pox when on for quite a while claiming lives prior to a vaccine.
You also didn't quite comprehend my post. No it will not go away on its own naturally.... the likely hood of eradication (given that historically only one was eradicated) via human effort is very slim. Even that one virus required a nationalized and international cooperation from the superpowers; USA and USSR. We can't even get our selves on the same page at the national level much less international (which for the most part we ignore).
We are closer to the Brazil model than the European model. Guess which ones are considered idiots.
Its worse.
Each country is to determine how to respond to the pandemic... in Europe that means each country was able to respond with closure of their borders to limit transmission. Brazil is also closed their borders but we aren't sure how effective they are at enforcing it.
Here, each state is to determine how to respond to the pandemic... But unlike each of those countries, the state does not have the legal right to close its borders. So what one state does (or does not do) is free to impact neighboring states. This is the reason why NJ, NY and CT governors are coordinating very closely and why they are relatively doing well now.
States hands are tied... and the refusal to take this to the national level has failed.
If this is a war and this is a "war-time" presidency, then treated as such.... you can't fight a war by leaving each state to fight on its own.
Well now we do thanks to irresponsible people like our President holding large indoor gatherings without masks or social distancing.
Also, there is a difference between living with the problem in a responsible manner or letting it get out of control to the point where hospitals are overflowing and unnecessary deaths are occurring.
But large gatherings of protests, looting, rioting are ok and safe?
he's right though, there's nothing we can do about covid now.
What kind of action do you even expect from leadership?
too many moving parts.
and you can't afford another even stricter shutdown.
covid isn't even that serious, if you were looking at the forest instead of the trees.
Cripple 300 million to save 1 million.... is not a good plan
Sadly, the leadership was lacking when we needed it most. And it's still lacking. Have everybody wear a mask. Socially distance. None of this wishy washy stuff. None of this acting like it's not a big deal. Trump needs to lead by example and wear a mask instead of flying all over the country having crowded events with no masks and no social distancing. That would be a start. And actually work with the experts on getting the word out instead of calling everything fake news that doesn't line up with his narrative.
I don't seem to remember Obama having 130,000 dead americans under his belt, from a virus. Oh right, Obama wouldn't be the kind of president to abdicate responsibility and play politics with a pandemic, like Trump has.
And how exactly would/could have Obama stopped it?
And how exactly would/could have Obama stopped it?
I don't think any president could have stopped it. But Obama sure wouldn't have denied its virulence and fought against his own experts for so long, denying that it was a problem.
Wearing a mask does not protect you from getting this virus.
The people wearing the mask are doing it for you. They don't know if they have it, but just in case their masks will afford you some protection from THEM. Masks have been shown to help greatly toward suppressing the transmission, and that is good for everyone in the long run and consequently good for the economy.
This is why when everyone in a building is wearing a mask (something they dislike themselves, but will consent to do) and a person comes in who refuses to cover, it is seen as a direct threat. People who are not part of the solution are part of the problem, and we have seen how that worked out in our disgraceful results these last few months. Large parts of our country chose to follow Trump's bad example and cases (followed by deaths) are spiking again.
People who are unwilling to wear the mask in recommended public settings for the sake of their fellows are just selfish ass holes.
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