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Governor Tim Walz today requested financial support from the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to help Minnesota rebuild after civil unrest damaged public infrastructure and caused extensive fire damage in the wake of George Floyd’s death.
“We’re asking our federal partners to step up and help our communities recover,” said Governor Walz. “We need to come together to ensure Minnesotans who were victims of this destruction have access to critical infrastructure they need so they can go to the grocery store, pick up their medication, and live their lives. Together, we will rebuild.”
“We are committed to helping our communities rebuild, but we can’t do this on our own,” said Lieutenant Governor Peggy Flanagan. “While state, tribal, and local budgets are stretched thin by COVID-19, we need everyone to step up, including the federal government, to restore safety and critical infrastructure to our communities.”
You can destroy yourselves, but together we rebuild.
They let two or three days of destruction (which included the burning down of the police station along with any evidence of the Floyd crime) occur before the Nat'l Guard was allowed to act.
Over 10,000 public safety officials contributed to the effort to restore peace and safety, including the first full mobilization of the Minnesota National Guard since World War II. However, nearly 1,500 Twin Cities businesses were damaged by vandalism, fire, or looting. Current estimates of the damage exceed $500,000,000.
Now I understand the reflex action would be to say heck no with a whole bunch of other expletives.
I would say the debt matters, but it really doesn't right now.
So if we are just throwing money at people, maybe Trump can be creative with this and make them reinstate the police under certain criteria and guidelines of how they are run.
Wrong
My reaction has been well thought out for some time, even before the riots.
Many sates/cities (mostly Democrat controlled) have been greasing unions and acting totally fiscally irresponsible.
Thus they were already in debt and getting worse by the year.
So while I have always felt any city or state that suffers a natural disaster or other calamity beyond their control, the rest of the county should come rushing to their aid.
However the federal taxpayers should not give one red cent to cities/states that allow corrupt local politicians to run their city/state into the ground, then come asking us to bail them out.
So that philosophy has been with me well before the rioting. However the allowance and appeasement of the left has just made it all the more obvious how they think they can make their bed, but not be forced to sleep in it.
Especially during a pandemic.
Man alone on the beach is arrested, but tens of thousands of criminal leftists can roam the streets creating mayhem and spreading the virus with impunity?
I don't think so.
Why should taxpayers across our country be forced to pay our hard earned money, all because leftist mayors and governors allowed the criminal scum to burn, loot, and destroy private and public property in their state?
They allowed the "summer of love" to occur, so they should live with the consequences, not the rest of us.
Also if you’re so concerned about accountability and people covering their own expenses, then I imagine you agree that Trump should cover the security costs associated with the rally he held a little while back in downtown Minneapolis? The bill came to $530,000. The rally happened on October 10. As of today they haven’t paid a dime.
No way. This wasn't a natural disaster it was civil unrest.
MN's inept civil authorities allowed this to happen.
"Federal partners....." LOL!!!!
OP meant to say Federal Suckers and out of State Patsies
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Minnesota is a rich state. They were running close to a 3B surplus before COVID.
There is all those Millions and Millions and Millions of $$$$ that BLM is raking in, not to mention all the Corporate Supporters of BLM/Antifa. They should call them for the Money
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Originally Posted by Cruz Azul Guy
I’m confused where the false narrative came from that looting or burning was allowed or encouraged? I live here and paid close attention to all the speeches and actions taken by city and state leaders and there is no truth to this whatsoever. FEMA aid was provided to victims of civil unrest after the LA riots in 1992. I see nothing real different here.
There was NO FEMA in 1992 - Bush did authorize some Federal Grants, but those disappeared into pockets instead of Re-Building. When the Police are not allowed to stop the Looting/Burning/Riots - then it was "allowed".
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Regarding Minneapolis, stop acting coy. You are not confused. You are being willfully ignorant. Mayor Frey willfully stood down the police, and the rioting/looting was allowed to go on for over 3 days.
Walz wrung his hands for days, then finally allowed the NG (who were staged nearby)to put a stopper in it.
I was in L.A. in 1992 myself. They should not have gotten FEMA money either, since (after trying for a while) city management gave up there also. A willful decision was made.
You know what L.A. had in 1992, that was obviously missing in Minneapolis in 2020?
A bunch of very willing "Rooftop Koreans".
The Governor DID call in the National Guard .... he did not give them the authority to arrest anyone.
The were mostly escorts for the Fire Department and Emergency vehicles. They brought in 500 NG, left 12,500 on standby.
Here’s what the National Guard can and can’t do during the George Floyd uprising |VOX - 05/29/20 When it comes to the specifics of what Minnesota’s National Guard members might be tasked with in the coming days, another spokesperson for the Guard, Lara Houston, told me “our missions are changing as the situation changes. It’s really whatever we are tasked to do by the governor’s office.”
But Hawks, the other Guard spokesperson, told me the roughly 500 activated members are “assisting and escorting firefighters to sites and providing them security as those firefighters do their work,” as well as “forming lines between protesters and sites that are at risk of being harmed.”
It’s possible Guard members will be asked to do more down the line as the situation changes — like clean up debris or provide medical care for injured people — but there’s no indication what those new authorities would even be. And Walz didn’t explicitly authorize the Guard to arrest citizens in this case.
Which is why Hawks, the Minnesota National Guard spokesperson, told me that, as of now, members have “no arrest authority.”
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As someone who saw everything go down in real time I’m not sure it’s fair or reasonable to find either the mayor or governor culpable for what happened. You’re free to play Monday morning quarterback on the situation and hypothesize how things could have been handled differently (as many people here seem to be doing). The current situation is that alot of residents and small business owners are hurting in an already underprivileged area. This request for federal aid is for them, not the governor. The mean-spiritedness and lack of compassion I’m reading here is disheartening. These are fellow Americans we’re talking about.
Sorry to tell you -- but your "Fellow Americans" are beyond disgusted with the Destruction these "peaceful protestors" have done all over the Country.
We get it - you don't think it's "fair" for anyone in Minnesota to be blamed or culpable for the Riots/Damage. BUT ..... you DO think it's "fair" for the rest of the Citizen Taxpayers to PAY for that Damage/Riots. We feel sorry for what's happened in Minneapolis - also in Seattle, Houston, Dallas, Chicago, L.A., Boston, Philadelphia and worst of all Washington D.C. - It was (and remains) "disheartening" that not a SINGLE Democrat Leader has stood up against this Destruction and made any attempt to stop these RIOTS. They all believe in the "give them space" and maybe they will stop and at least the Leftist Media won't say anything bad about me.
This is MY Country we're talking about, it's MY Flag they are Burning, it was also MY town they Looted and MY State they also Rioted in. Odd thing is ..... these RIOTS only happen in Cities that have Democrats for Leaders and the Citizens VOTED for those Leaders. Call your buddies that support these "peaceful protests", that mysteriously turn into Riots, Burnings, Looting and DEATH for whatever Money you think will funnel down to the "small business owners". It never goes to them, it goes into the Hole of Corruption, usually to pay Pensions. That's exactly what happened in L.A in 1992. Since your City has already voted to Defund the Police -- use that money.
There is a FEMA List of Disasters that a City/State can apply to for aid
Riots is not on the list, burning Businesses is not on the list, Looting is not on the list.
OP meant to say Federal Suckers and out of State Patsies
There is all those Millions and Millions and Millions of $$$$ that BLM is raking in, not to mention all the Corporate Supporters of BLM/Antifa. They should call them for the Money
There was NO FEMA in 1992 - Bush did authorize some Federal Grants, but those disappeared into pockets instead of Re-Building. When the Police are not allowed to stop the Looting/Burning/Riots - then it was "allowed".
The Governor DID call in the National Guard .... he did not give them the authority to arrest anyone.
The were mostly escorts for the Fire Department and Emergency vehicles. They brought in 500 NG, left 12,500 on standby.
Here’s what the National Guard can and can’t do during the George Floyd uprising |VOX - 05/29/20 When it comes to the specifics of what Minnesota’s National Guard members might be tasked with in the coming days, another spokesperson for the Guard, Lara Houston, told me “our missions are changing as the situation changes. It’s really whatever we are tasked to do by the governor’s office.”
But Hawks, the other Guard spokesperson, told me the roughly 500 activated members are “assisting and escorting firefighters to sites and providing them security as those firefighters do their work,” as well as “forming lines between protesters and sites that are at risk of being harmed.”
It’s possible Guard members will be asked to do more down the line as the situation changes — like clean up debris or provide medical care for injured people — but there’s no indication what those new authorities would even be. And Walz didn’t explicitly authorize the Guard to arrest citizens in this case.
Which is why Hawks, the Minnesota National Guard spokesperson, told me that, as of now, members have “no arrest authority.”
Sorry to tell you -- but your "Fellow Americans" are beyond disgusted with the Destruction these "peaceful protestors" have done all over the Country.
We get it - you don't think it's "fair" for anyone in Minnesota to be blamed or culpable for the Riots/Damage. BUT ..... you DO think it's "fair" for the rest of the Citizen Taxpayers to PAY for that Damage/Riots. We feel sorry for what's happened in Minneapolis - also in Seattle, Houston, Dallas, Chicago, L.A., Boston, Philadelphia and worst of all Washington D.C. - It was (and remains) "disheartening" that not a SINGLE Democrat Leader has stood up against this Destruction and made any attempt to stop these RIOTS. They all believe in the "give them space" and maybe they will stop and at least the Leftist Media won't say anything bad about me.
This is MY Country we're talking about, it's MY Flag they are Burning, it was also MY town they Looted and MY State they also Rioted in. Odd thing is ..... these RIOTS only happen in Cities that have Democrats for Leaders and the Citizens VOTED for those Leaders. Call your buddies that support these "peaceful protests", that mysteriously turn into Riots, Burnings, Looting and DEATH for whatever Money you think will funnel down to the "small business owners". It never goes to them, it goes into the Hole of Corruption, usually to pay Pensions. That's exactly what happened in L.A in 1992. Since your City has already voted to Defund the Police -- use that money.
There is a FEMA List of Disasters that a City/State can apply to for aid
Riots is not on the list, burning Businesses is not on the list, Looting is not on the list.
If I may ask what specific action should have been taken that wasn’t?
Are you referring to Minnehaha Liquor? Chicago-Lake Liquor had broken windows and some looting but suffered no fire damage. The store is now fully intact to the best of my knowledge.
My mistake, I stand corrected your correct
they still are not open.
My reaction has been well thought out for some time, even before the riots.
Many sates/cities (mostly Democrat controlled) have been greasing unions and acting totally fiscally irresponsible.
Thus they were already in debt and getting worse by the year.
So while I have always felt any city or state that suffers a natural disaster or other calamity beyond their control, the rest of the county should come rushing to their aid.
However the federal taxpayers should not give one red cent to cities/states that allow corrupt local politicians to run their city/state into the ground, then come asking us to bail them out.
So that philosophy has been with me well before the rioting. However the allowance and appeasement of the left has just made it all the more obvious how they think they can make their bed, but not be forced to sleep in it.
Especially during a pandemic.
Man alone on the beach is arrested, but tens of thousands of criminal leftists can roam the streets creating mayhem and spreading the virus with impunity?
I don't think so.
Why should taxpayers across our country be forced to pay our hard earned money, all because leftist mayors and governors allowed the criminal scum to burn, loot, and destroy private and public property in their state?
They allowed the "summer of love" to occur, so they should live with the consequences, not the rest of us.
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I understand the notion to let them fend for themselves.
But in the end, we are giving ground to their agenda by allowing them to create these nonsense community security mall cops that could easily turn into Taliban type rule. I don't think it would be good to allow that to occur. So I would have no problem dangling the money in front of them to make them have a typical local police force with more stringent accountability.
First, responsibility & accountability and that's going to be hard seeing how they
have almost done away with MPD and city leaders have private security
They MUST learn their lesson or it's a repeat of a nasty cycle, Floyd Day was never
about Race. I hope the wheels of justice make a clear example of the former MPD
officers. There was a past with George & The Officer that will come out when the trial
starts. The MPD is not Raciest, I know they pound on everyone just ask anyone
who hung around Lake Nokomis back in the 70's.
The damage to the Twin City area, heck the Nation was an opportunity buy groups
that hate America and are just seeing how far they can take their agenda.
The city of Minneapolis clearly and purposely did not honor the OATH they
took to Protect and Serve and the wheels of justice should fall on them as well.
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