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Old 07-12-2020, 04:44 PM
 
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You have proof that the “vast majority of people on the Left believe in God?”
I guess that would depend on how you define "the Left" and how strongly ones believes in God.

If you are talking about Americans who consider themselves liberals and/or Democrats out of the mold just a few decades ago, you might have a majority of them who have faith and believe in God. Believe it or not, a majority of older school Democrats who lean left are gun owners. There use to be room for conservative, moderates and liberals within the party, even even brought the kooky leftists out every election and then locked them back into the closet.
However now the kooks have escaped the 2-4 year closet, and are heavily influencing, if not running the show.

I have Democrats that lean left in my family but they are women of faith. Regardless, because of the insanity of the modern day Democrats, one is voting for Trump, the other cannot bring herself to vote for Trump, but will either not vote, or vote 3rd party.
She is astute enough to know that Biden will just be a feckless eunuch for the radical left, who has taken control of the party.



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Old 07-12-2020, 07:54 PM
 
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2018-2019 Pew research showed that just 4% of Americans are atheists. Even if every single atheist was a liberal (which they are not) the math doesn't add up.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...20decade%20ago.
'Saying' you believe in God and Actually believing in God, are two very different concepts.

For example, someone who hates the notion of God, can say they believe in God, then proceed to do all kinds of horrible things. This way, people who don't believe in God can feel cozy and say: You see these evil theists? they're proof God doesn't exist. They'll even go as far to say Hitler was a Christian. Needless to say, they aren't too bright.

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Old 07-12-2020, 07:56 PM
 
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Sure, and the scientific process is the best way to uncover the truth we have come up with as a species.
Are you an atheist?
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Old 07-12-2020, 08:35 PM
 
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Are you an atheist?
No, that would be asserting something that can’t be known.
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Old 07-12-2020, 08:43 PM
 
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that would be asserting something that can’t be known.
This statement violates the law of non-contradiction.

If you say something can't be known, then how do you know that?
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Old 07-12-2020, 08:54 PM
 
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This statement violates the law of non-contradiction.

If you say something can't be known, then how do you know that?
You can’t prove a negative.

There isn’t compelling evidence for a God. But can’t prove there isn’t either. I know that a literal reading of the Bible is too problematic for that to be proof. Comparative studies of other religions also have issues. So agnosticism it is.
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Old 07-12-2020, 09:05 PM
 
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You can’t prove a negative.
Of course you can. For example, I can say there are NO ( a negative claim) monkeys playing tennis in the room next to us, then simply proceed to the next room and prove the negative claim to be correct.

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There isn’t compelling evidence for a God.
Did your computer or whatever device you're communicating through, create itself?
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Old 07-12-2020, 09:18 PM
 
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How Trump cancelled someone on CNN back in 2017 over a tweet:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/reza-a...m-over-a-tweet
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Old 07-12-2020, 09:22 PM
 
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*Can’t prove a negative of something that is untestable. For all we know we’re living in a simulation and nothing is real.
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Old 07-12-2020, 09:33 PM
 
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*Can’t prove a negative of something that is untestable.
Yet another knowledge claim that violates the law of non-contradiction. How do you KNOW what you proclaim? You're entering into the realm of relativism where nothing makes sense
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For all we know we’re living in a simulation and nothing is real.
If thats the case, then why even argue with me?
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