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Old 07-23-2020, 10:30 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Justifying one's affinity for alt-right philosophy and right-wing nationalism is an exercise in pretzel logic, ain't it?
Ya.
Everyone knows, Socialism only works at gunpoint.
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Old 07-23-2020, 11:21 AM
 
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When the "worldly Jew" is not the real "Sabbath Jew" and the real Sabbath Jew is not the "worldly Jew" then what?

He is basically saying turn all the "worldly Jew"/"everyday Jew" into universalists, the fact that the Sabbath Jew is the real Jew who has the Jewish Ideology and spirit, means that he is the first to be targeted when the revolution happens. This has nothing to to with economics. Marxisim used economics to advance an agenda that had nothing to do with economics.

This was true in 1844 france, 1919 Russia, 1933 Germany, and 2020 America.

BTW it is very clear what Marx is getting at, his mother who he hated was to him to much of a sabbath Jew to him, despite throwing away everything and converting. He was trying to create a system that would make Jews sell out their Judaism completely. He is trying to guide a system that would get rid of Judaism. The unspoken truth is that after winning over who ever he can win over, murder is the next step.

Honestly Marx entire world view is just to attack on his mother (who was too Jewish for him, and marx's personification of Jews who he knew nothing about) Thus every thing he said is just a spoiled brat complaining about his mother being a hypocrite for her "Judaism" and cutting him off.
If you are a Sabbath Jew why do you get angry when we all we do is talk about Worldly or International Jew?? Why don't you confront them ??
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Old 07-23-2020, 11:27 AM
 
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I quoted Wiki and I believe that the description they gave includes the cases you describe here.






So?
What's so remarkable about it?
So, it means that 6 million numbers might not be precise, when most have already moved to US and Israel.

It is said that 3 millions Jews were killed in Poland alone. They may well have been the ethnic Poles ( Slavs) , rather than Polish Jews. I may be wrong.

I am wondering if the population of Polish and Russina Jews were around 10 million at that time.
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Old 07-23-2020, 12:41 PM
 
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Yes, antisemitism is just a Freudian hatred of mother.
no Marx's antisemitism was hatred of his mother, And I don't think it was Freudian it was her not giving him money


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In all seriousness, what Marx is saying is, there is something about Judaism that explains Jewish behavior and even Jewish success.
and how many Jews did he know, who did not run away from Judaism and convert to another religion for convenience?

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He argues that Judaism is a more "practical" version of Christianity. Practical being more useful in our "material world". Which is why I enjoyed the last line so much... " 'Christianity' was too noble-minded, too spiritualistic to eliminate the crudity of practical need in any other way than by elevation to the skies."
I don't think Christianity is noble, anything decent came from Judaism





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Only under Christianity could Jews so thoroughly dominate.
Jews historically has more power under Islam, than Christianity
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Old 07-23-2020, 12:53 PM
 
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If you are a Sabbath Jew why do you get angry when we all we do is talk about Worldly or International Jew?? Why don't you confront them ??
in 1800 almost all Jews followed Judisim, though not all of them were truly following it. In 1850 many Jews were reforming it, (meaning they weren't following it but pretended they were). Today most Jews are not even pretending to follow Judaism.
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Old 07-23-2020, 01:05 PM
 
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in 1800 almost all Jews followed Judisim, though not all of them were truly following it. In 1850 many Jews were reforming it, (meaning they weren't following it but pretended they were). Today most Jews are not even pretending to follow Judaism.
Makes sense. Happens with every religion. Liberalism or to be specific, indifference , is creeping everywhere.
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Old 07-23-2020, 03:12 PM
 
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Makes sense. Happens with every religion. Liberalism or to be specific, indifference , is creeping everywhere.
probably 60%-70% of American Jews are really atheists.

The difference between Jews and everyone else, no other religion is someone considered part of their religion when they deny the religion for generations. Judaism was born at a time that peoples equaled religion. Thus an atheistic Jew is considered a Jew, just like a Russian is considered a Russian even if he moves to England.

If 2 Russians moved to England and had a children many people would still call the children Russian.
If 2 Lutherans became atheists and had children, does anyone call the children Lutheran?
Jews are still considered Jewish by most Jews and most of the world even if they don't even pretend to follow anything in Judaism.
If Bernie Sanders was descended from any other religion in America he would be called an atheist, since he is Jewish he is called a Jew.

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Old 07-23-2020, 03:19 PM
 
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Not implying anything. I'm looking for truth after decades of lies.

Which non Jews did they murder? Also the 6 million Jew death number is a lie. In 1933 all of Europe had 9 million Jews.

Most of the deaths were due to concentration camps /sickness malnutrition etc. Ive seen several sources questioning "gas chambers"
That means I can kidnap your Nazi loving azz, wrap your body in chains and leave you in a windowless room with out food or water. When you ultimately die--I can't be charged with murder b/c your death was due to lack of water. Yes.
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Old 07-23-2020, 04:35 PM
 
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6 million weren't gassed, around a third were shot.
2 million JEWS were shot in WW2????????????
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Old 07-23-2020, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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This is quickly becoming one of my favorite threads on City-Data.

I haven't failed to read a single post so far.
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