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Old 07-18-2020, 05:54 PM
 
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As a libertarian im good with your drug use
Again.. my statement has nothing to do with what you or I believe..

It is simply pointing out the fallacy of your statement.

 
Old 07-18-2020, 05:56 PM
 
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Again.. my statement has nothing to do with what you or I believe..

It is simply pointing out the fallacy of your statement.
There isnt one
 
Old 07-18-2020, 06:04 PM
 
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There isnt one
I believe you are smarter than that....

It is known as a false dilemma a type of informal logical fallacy in which you argue that there are only two claims (in this case 100% or Placebo). When there are all sorts of possible claims. Like I said, no precaution is 100% thus you are claiming all precautions are placebos... which is false.
 
Old 07-18-2020, 06:05 PM
 
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There isnt one
There kind of is. Would you tell your surgeon to get rid of their mask before they put you under? It's just a placebo right? Don't want them to be deprived of oxygen after all.
 
Old 07-18-2020, 06:08 PM
 
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There kind of is. Would you tell your surgeon to get rid of their mask before they put you under? It's just a placebo right? Don't want them to be deprived of oxygen after all.
Re-read what I wrote; "as largely worn by the general public"
 
Old 07-18-2020, 06:18 PM
 
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I really do applaud this type of mask/protest. Unless the stores want to specify a type of mask and pay people to verify usage, it meets the requirement. And if they dont, it proves my point.
 
Old 07-18-2020, 06:23 PM
 
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This is why people need to be anti-State.

Frank and I disagree on personal mask choice.

If he comes over my house he has to put one on or leave. If I go over his house I have to take mine off or leave.

I can tell others Frank doesn't like masks. He can tell other I like masks.

Private property rights upheld, no violence, and capitalism will let the chips fall where they may.

So, who else is with us?

i suppose you'll make me take my shoes off too
 
Old 07-18-2020, 06:24 PM
 
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I really do applaud this type of mask/protest. Unless the stores want to specify a type of mask and pay people to verify usage, it meets the requirement. And if they dont, it proves my point.
Deliberately cheating the intent of a private business request... I guess that defines your point. Cheating lying etc.. surely sounds like your point.

A capitalist respects the private business rights.. intent and all. Sound like your point is very much anti-business rights .
 
Old 07-18-2020, 06:27 PM
 
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Deliberately cheating the intent of a private business request... I guess that defines your point. Cheating lying etc.. surely sounds like your point.
How is it cheating if they dont specify? I've seen people (including employees) with all types of homemade nonsense and no one in the store says a thing. If they are serious, they'll check.
 
Old 07-18-2020, 06:28 PM
 
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When I was driving earlier today, I saw a bumper sticker that said "MASK IT OR CASKET". Mask wearing has become pretty much standard here inside any store or public area and I see about 60 percent of people wearing them just when walking around their own neighborhood and maybe 30 percent when driving.
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