So now we know covid's real death rate is like 0.2 to 0.5% - why is the whole world freaking out? (drug, healthcare)

[ATB108]

Originally Posted by hooligan

Zing! Reps to you.

the avg person dying from covid is 80 years old


the same as the national avg. The vast majority of these people had 1 foot in the grave, let's be honest here

[chopchop0]

Originally Posted by ATB108

keep it to healthy people under 60 and the death rate is like 0.000001%



why is our whole life changed and things are shut down and people's livelihoods is sacrificed to something that's barely more than a common cold?


Is this just a government test worldwide to see how much they can terrify and control us?

Do you want permanent lung or brain damage?

https://news.berkeley.edu/2020/07/08...ngering-marks/

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/2...d-19-infection

[ATB108]

Originally Posted by Goodnight

How do you separate in multi-generational homes, how do you address school teachers, how do you segregate 30 year olds from the elderly or compromised.

last time I checked, you can drink and smoke yourself to an early grave



this is America. If you're immune compromised or you live in a household with 85 year olds, stay the **** home and wear 5 masks and don't talk to anybody... but to enforce this garbage on people like myself who are under no risk and have no family under any risk (my parents are very healthy) is just absurd...

[chopchop0]

Originally Posted by ATB108

the avg person dying from covid is 80 years old


the same as the national avg. The vast majority of these people had 1 foot in the grave, let's be honest here

Let's be honest here, you probably have the medical education level of the TV show ER..... Maybe the permanent brain damage won't really affect you if you get it but it will affect others of us significantly

[Arya Stark]

Originally Posted by chopchop0

Do you want permanent lung or brain damage?

https://news.berkeley.edu/2020/07/08...ngering-marks/

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/2...d-19-infection

OMG please stop it with this.. so far over 10 million (that we know of) have recovered. Where are the epidemics of damage?

They don't exist.

Just fear mongering scare tactics.

[chopchop0]

Originally Posted by Arya Stark

OMG please stop it with this.. so far over 10 million (that we know of) have recovered. Where are the epidemics of damage?

They don't exist.

Just fear mongering scare tactics.

Fake news. There's plenty of evidence on these forums

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53065340

[T0103E]

It’s emotionally painful for people to admit the lockdown was/is an overreaction. It’s fine to be cautious, especially if you’re not sure what’s going on, but it’s been close to half a year already and none of the doomsday predictions have played out. It’s always “Just wait two weeks...you’ll see.”

[MetroWord]

Originally Posted by ATB108

I'll be shocked if the real death rate is anything above 0.1% once the dust is settled

Ok, let me try to make this as simple as I can. It's not like this info's been out there all this time anyway.

The reason the death rate has been relatively low is because the number of hospitalization and the need for ICUs hasn't surpassed the number of ICUs available. I'm talking about the availability of respirators, medical personnel, drugs, and other factors involved in treating patients that are not reacting well to this infection.

The concern is when the number of infections and severe cases begin to outnumber the hospitals' capacity to treat everyone. Imagine if the number of ICUs needed was double what is available. Then what?

The death rate right now is artificially being kept low due to availability of medical resources. Once the infection rate and the overall infection number surpass our medical resources' ability to artificially keep these people alive, the death rate will begin to climb.

Here is an example that will make it easier to understand. The bubonic plague is actually pretty easy for our modern medicine to treat. Whenever it turns up somewhere in the world, it is stamped out almost immediately. And so, the death rate to that is lower than low nowadays.

And yet, once upon a time, it killed off about 70% of Europe's population. Why? How? It was left to spread unchecked.

Seeing just how low of a death rate the bubonic plague is nowadays, are you really going to make the argument that it is no big deal? Probably not because we have historical example of it wiping out 70% of the population.

Apply that to the coronavirus. The death rate is low right now because our modern medical resources are artificially keeping it that way. If and when the number of infections and severe cases are more than our medical resources can handle, we will start to see an uptick in the death rate due to severe cases left untreated due to the system being overwhelmed.

Let me guess, you're going to come back with something rightwing and clever or sarcastic. I don't know why I even bother with you guys anymore.

[Arya Stark]

Originally Posted by MetroWord

Apply that to the coronavirus. The death rate is low right now because our modern medical resources are artificially keeping it that way. If and when the number of infections and severe cases are more than our medical resources can handle, we will start to see an uptick in the death rate due to severe cases left untreated due to the system being overwhelmed.

Let me guess, you're going to come back with something rightwing and clever or sarcastic. I don't know why I even bother with you guys anymore.

That is simply not true. You can find 3rd world countries with similar death rates or even better?

I am also tired of hearing "what if"... we are 6 months into this... no more "what if" we know the answers.

[MetroWord]

Originally Posted by Arya Stark

OMG please stop it with this.. so far over 10 million (that we know of) have recovered. Where are the epidemics of damage?

They don't exist.

Just fear mongering scare tactics.

This many have recovered due to our modern medical resources. And our modern medical resources are still effective because the rate of infection and the total of infection are still within what our resources can handle.

If left unchecked, the rate of infection and number of infection could go far beyond what our resources can handle. Then the death rate will dramatically increase due to the system being overwhelmed.

Here is an analogy. You go skydiving. The parachute keeps you from plunging to your death. After you've landed, you start telling people that gravity isn't such a big deal. After all, you survived falling from the sky, literally. Nevermind the fact that the parachute was artificially keeping you alive.

Now, let's suppose that there are more people skydiving than there are the number of parachutes available. Those who survives the fall due to having a parachute will say it's no big deal. What about all the people who didn't get a parachute because the number of skydivers heavily outnumber the number of parachutes available? Then what?