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You're conflating "America" with "the people". America is a corporation, and corporations benefit from cheap labor and larger markets.
True. But Joe Biden is still right.
PS: I'm the most racist person on this board and I want literally zero immigration, but it seems like none of you people have any clue what immigration is for. Illegal and legal immigration are the same thing. The purpose of putting limits on immigration is for fear that it could destabilize society, otherwise we would have open-borders.
Yes he is technically correct. No different if he had said slavery would help make America strong. The common denominator is cheap labor.
Don't be too hard on the mentally impaired. Biden doesn't know what he is saying half the time. The other half of the time his nose is in some woman's hair.
Or she's blowing up his nostrils to make sure he's still alive.
Yes he is technically correct. No different if he had said slavery would help make America strong. The common denominator is cheap labor.
Slave labor isn't as good as free labor because slaves aren't consumers. Plus slaves don't work as hard as free laborers, and they require a large upfront investment(and they can run away, die, etc). Plus, unless you can keep them constantly employed, you have to feed and house them while they sit around, and they often want to murder you in your sleep.
Much better to find starving third-world peasants who will be happy to work really really hard for peanuts, and who are also consumers.
If you have the slightest understanding of how an economy works, this is indisputable.
Do you want to know how indisputable? Even if you took the economic activity of only illegal aliens, they more than pay for the "freebies" they collect. Like several times more than they collect.
There is no rational reason to removing illegal immigrants. ZERO. not only would you crater the economy by doing that, but you would just have to import the same number to replace the ones you just deported.
In short, deporting illegal immigrants w clean records is one of the stupidest economic policies we have in discussion.
Illegals are a net loss to the economy and our government. Even most pro-illegals groups admit this.
Yes they may pay sales tax, some might pay all of their taxes. Not most.
They also lowball legal citizens out of those very jobs. Citizens who would have paid more taxes, because they earned more.
Illegals uses public services and dont pay their share. Often living 2 or 3 families in a single family dwelling. The taxes the greedy landlord pays reflects a single family dwelling.
Unpaid hospital bills
Schools having to provide tutors and bi-lingual teachers, costs extra.
In reality the only upside to illegals is for the greedy employers who hire them. Do you honestly believe that such employers pass on the savings to the consumer?
It's not only about jobs. Illegal immigration is intertwined with the drug cartels, human sex trafficking, and slavery/indentured servitude.
And Biden and the Democrats think this makes the country "strong." These people are insane and dangerous.
They absolutely make our country strong. How many Americans do you know who want to pick crabs for a living. Who wants to clean someone else's toilet. Let's face it, Americans don't want these kind of jobs. Without these workers many businesses and farms would suffer.
[1] What are you talking about? What does socialism have to do with illegals?
[2] And if that 67% of the budget is entitlements, don't forget that money most of us and our employer paid intoSocial security for 50 or more years.
[3] I have no doubt that employers of illegals are dumping their cost onto the American taxpayer.
You will not stop employers from under the table transactions because we are not willing to spend what it would cost to catch them.
[4] We are not even willing to locate those millions who overstayed their visas. How hard can it be?
[1] EVERYTHING IS DUE TO SOCIALISM. The loss of jobs and industries from socialist taxation, to the flood of illegals seeking benefits. The cost to hire legals is inflated by the socialist tax on labor and industry. The freebies available to parents of anchor babies is another. Eliminate all socialist taxes on labor and industry and you end the illegal problem as well as repatriate most industries driven out by high taxation and overhead expenses.
[2] Don't you know that SocSec is NOT insurance and there is no “Trust Fund.” In two important cases, Helvering v. Davis and Flemming v. Nestor, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that Social Security taxes are simply taxes and convey no property or contractual rights to Social Security benefits. Benefits are at the sole discretion of Congress. Basically, it was a tax and bribe scheme from day one.
[3] If there was no economic benefit to hiring undocumented labor, it would stop. Eliminate all socialist taxes and regulations, and there's nothing to compel employers to hire illegals.
[4] If you want checkpoints everywhere, demanding "your paperzzzzzzz" it would be easier to find those who had poor counterfeits or no documentation. But don't be naive. There is a huge marketplace for forged documentation ranging from SocSec cards to driver's licenses and even passports for those who never bothered to get visas.
HOWEVER, If there were no socialist taxes nor regulations, it would not benefit an employer to hire a foreigner over an American worker, regardless of paperwork.
The irony is that socialism was "sold" to us by offering "help" for the workers who became unemployed. But the tax and bureaucracy it created killed off more jobs and industries, than the number of workers who were truly "helped." It created a monster, where the recipient class votes overshadow the donor class votes, splitting the nation into partisan "Takers" versus "Makers."
Look around and ponder what happened to all those American industries that once provided 99.999% of all our necessities and luxuries. Instead of industrial and manufacturing capacity that "won" WW2, we have the Rust belt, the homeless, underemployment, "service sector jobs", and not much else. Americans, especially those born after the 1970s, have no memory of the past manufacturing prowess destroyed by the socialist monster, nor its high quality goods and services that once was.
Few remember the multitude of towns and villages that had an anchor industry that provided jobs to the locals. Even in the farmlands, there were a multitude of "local" canneries, mills and processors that provided jobs for workers and farmers in the days before socialism and "agribusiness."
If diverse America is "strong" today, I hate to see what would happen if its imports were cut off.
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