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Old 09-05-2020, 01:45 PM
 
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Originally Posted by EddieB.Good View Post
It doesn't matter if the Left complains about them when they're supported by the Right. We can point out all of this and they'll still be on Fox News the next day.
I know because the anonymous sources are the true saints and have never lied. They are the most reliable sources of truth.

 
Old 09-05-2020, 01:48 PM
 
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If the two sources are the same liars quoted by the Atlantic, this is not corroborating.
These comments are so over the top... I wouldnt take them seriously without a recording.
In the end what does it change? News flash: Trump says something offensive. Stop the press!
Does that mean a significant number of voters will suddenly support a radical ticket that is pro open borders, pro China, pro slavery reperations, pro BLM, turns a blind eye to rioting and looting....

Not on your life.
It will effect swing voters who are still deciding and puts a spotlight on the horrible things he said about McCain. And then lying and saying he did not say horrible things about McCain. Lets see was he invited to McCain's funeral, nope. It could also flip current and former military and their families who think to themselves that Trump probably did say this. My dad was a hero in WW2. He had shipmates and friends who did not make it back. Trump calling them losers is about as offensive a thing someone could say in my book. Their sacrifices made it possible for Trump to be successful in America.

And the rioting and looting. That is going on now on Trump's watch. If he is not able or willing to do anything about it now. What going to change next year? Months ago he could have declared marital law and ended the protests overnight. I guess if martial law polled well he would have already done it. Could he declare martial law? Only one way to find out.
 
Old 09-05-2020, 01:51 PM
 
Location: az
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So let me get this right. The Commander in Chief of the United States Armed Forces insults every American serviceman whoever died for this country and you think American citizens will be more upset over Nancy Pelosi's visit to a hair salon?
The public by and large is going will ignore the Atlantic article because it's based on hearsay. And the MSM won't push the story because they know Trump will have thousands of active/retired military lining up in support by the end of next week. They (MSM) realize if they aren't careful this could backfire and help him.

On the other hand the Pelosi video has legs. She's all about public safety/wearing a mask. Yet, there she is no mask and getting her hair done. She claims it was a set-up but even Don Lemon/CNN wasn't buying it.

So, yes the American public is going to be a more concerned... far more concerned with the Pelosi video than what the Atlantic article alleges.
 
Old 09-05-2020, 01:51 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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The lefties are trying to get a point across that Trump is a evil, racist liar that insulted veterans (the latter not substantiated other than Anonymous Sources). Anonymous Sources can also mean disgruntled former administration officials.

Let’s say for a minute that it’s true. Should I as a American then support a party with wanting open borders, eliminating my private healthcare, supporting riots and violence, more cooperation with China at the expense of our Country’s economic welfare, wanting to strip down our 2nd amendment rights and higher taxes to pay for universal healthcare (including illegals) just because he made a insult according to “Anonymous Sources”?

Blame your radical socialist ideas as to why your are close to even in the polls. If this was the Democrat party of even 20 years ago with more of a moderate mindset Trump would lose in a landslide. Let that sink in.
 
Old 09-05-2020, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Nice, France
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The problem you have, apart from the anonymously sourced story being bull ****, is producing a candidate that isn't more revolting in practical matters than Trump's alleged and unsubstantiated rhetoric.

Biden, like Hillary before him, is an opportunist that will do and say anything to get elected.

But if you want to understand the real Joe Biden, it's a guy that dodged the draft because he allegedly had asthma, but then was crass enough to play college football while some other guy went to Vietnam in his place.

The real Joe Biden repeatedly and publicly accused the innocent truck driver involved in the collision that killed his first wife and daughter of being drunk, even though there was never any indication whatsoever that he was not sober.

What sort of ******* does something like that?

More to the point, this invented offense is exactly the sort of sleazy tactic the Democrats are now famous for using when the vacuous ideology of identity politics doesn't get the job done.

So now, we're judging "supposed" character of a candidate ? thanks for the lol
 
Old 09-05-2020, 01:58 PM
 
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So let me get this right. The Commander in Chief of the United States Armed Forces insults every American serviceman whoever died for this country and you think American citizens will be more upset over Nancy Pelosi's visit to a hair salon?
that's how they roll
 
Old 09-05-2020, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Originally Posted by Cape Cod Todd View Post
That is some list you have compiled and for me it doesn't matter.

I say that deeds are stronger than words and Trump holds our military in a higher regard than the Democrats do.



Even if he did call some of them losers which is terrible if true I can't get it out of my head that Obama and Hillary left our guys to die in Benghazi and they lied lied lied to cover up the mess which made the deceit even worse. All the Democrats went right along with the big lie.





Trump might be rude, crass and a bully at times but he is no where as deceitful as the Demoncrats are.
He has done what exactly for the military? Bring your list of links etc.
 
Old 09-05-2020, 01:58 PM
 
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The author of the piece is almost beyond reproach. A scholar with an impeccable reputation. Hard to call fake news on this one.
But then again maybe everyone with decades of experience and prestigious honors are all malicious liars. We are not talking about Rush Limbaugh here.
It is 'fake news' and another flat-out lie by another Democrat left lying liar. This is the ordinary behavior for these people now and has been for years.

What would be surprising is if they started to conduct themselves with integrity and professionalism, and started telling the truth. That would be shocking indeed at this point.
 
Old 09-05-2020, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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I thought conservatives hated Cancel Culture...


Trump Calls for Firing of Fox Reporter Who Confirmed Atlantic Article on Veterans

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trum...riffin-1529849
It’s good Fox stands up for the military!! I have never thought they would do otherwise.
 
Old 09-05-2020, 02:01 PM
 
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Originally Posted by john3232 View Post
The public by and large is going will ignore the Atlantic article because it's based on hearsay. And the MSM won't push the story because they know Trump will have thousands of active/retired military lining up in support by the end of next week. They (MSM) realize if they aren't careful their reporting might backfire and and help Trump.

On the other hand the Pelosi video has legs. She's all about public safety/wearing a mask. Yet, there she is no mask and getting her hair done. She claims it was a set-up but even Don Lemon/CNN wasn't buying it.

So, yes the American public is going to be a more concerned... far more concerned with the Pelosi tape than with what the Atlantic article alleges.
The fact that Fox News and ALL the major news networks covered the Atlantic article means the reach went FAR beyond the journal’s readership. If you don’t know this, then it is truly unfortunate.

The fact that Trump had to come out and defend himself with lies (“I called home to Melania..”) tells you this is a serious issue. No one is even talking about Pelosi. She’s not running for president. If you don’t know this, it is truly, truly unfortunate.

Returning to the hot topic: Trump is in serious danger. The issue isn’t whether he truly said those things (although I am inclined to believe he did). The issue is voters believe he could have said those words. He said it about McCain in public. He could have said far worse in private. And no one will believe his denials because America has accepted the fact that only lies come out of this man’s foul mouth.

This is an issue where credibility, honor, and trust would have helped Trump. Unfortunately for Trump, he lacks any of those qualities and Americans know that. That’s also why he very likely said those hateful things about our veterans and active duty personnel. You don’t have to like it, but that’s the way it is.
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