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Old 09-14-2020, 05:06 PM
 
Location: sumter
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Your belief in what is causing the fires, is probably base on what side of the political aisle you are on. Like if you are a supporter of the president, you are probably going to believe whatever he believe.
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Old 09-14-2020, 05:15 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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Your belief in what is causing the fires, is probably base on what side of the political aisle you are on. Like if you are a supporter of the president, you are probably going to believe whatever he believe.
It's not really an opinion. I've heard people from the Bureau of Land Management and other forest officials over the years talking about it on the radio. These fires happen pretty frequently here in CA and they said for years, decades now that the forest hasn't been properly managed.

The electrical grid also hasn't been managed now properly for years as well. The fire a couple of years ago up in Paradise Ca killed a bunch of people and destroyed the whole town up there. It was blamed on on electrical malfunction if I recall correctly.

If climate is involved, it's down at the bottom of the list, not something that you lead with as a reason why this is happening. Gavin Newsom is trying to spin it like that, but anyone with common sense that pays any attention knows he's full of crap.

He's nothing but a cheap sleazy political hack.
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Old 09-14-2020, 05:17 PM
 
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Your belief in what is causing the fires, is probably base on what side of the political aisle you are on. Like if you are a supporter of the president, you are probably going to believe whatever he believe.
The point is if you believe its Climate change like dome hoaxsters are claiming youre either plain just dumb or a sheep
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Old 09-14-2020, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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They've already arrested some arsonists - is this even a question at this point?
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Old 09-14-2020, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Forrest management.most of the lumber I buy for years is stamped product of Canada.Our war on logging has made them wealthy selling us lumber we cannot cut here.Notice western Canada is not burning down like the US.Could you imagine all the homes our burned timber could have built now just ash in the sky?Do you know how many more spotted owls these fires have killed than managed logging ever could?Humans can be really stupid loving thing to death and prove it every day.Yeah you saved a tree at the cost of hundreds of thousands of trees.
Really? One year ago in Canada:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Alberta_wildfires

Two million acres burned. Then was Siberia nearly 50 million acres burned (Trump, unlike for Americans in California, offered US help to Putin)

, and Australia. See a pattern here? Forests around the world are burning in massive fires that have been predicted by climate scientists for decades. The earth is adjusting to the new normal and it means fewer forested areas will be sustainable.
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Old 09-14-2020, 05:32 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Combination of of arson and poor management.
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Old 09-14-2020, 05:35 PM
 
Location: sumter
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It's not really an opinion. I've heard people from the Bureau of Land Management and other forest officials over the years talking about it on the radio. These fires happen pretty frequently here in CA and they said for years, decades now that the forest hasn't been properly managed.

The electrical grid also hasn't been managed now properly for years as well. The fire a couple of years ago up in Paradise Ca killed a bunch of people and destroyed the whole town up there. It was blamed on on electrical malfunction if I recall correctly.

If climate is involved, it's down at the bottom of the list, not something that you lead with as a reason why this is happening. Gavin Newsom is trying to spin it like that, but anyone with common sense that pays any attention knows he's full of crap.

He's nothing but a cheap sleazy political hack.
What are some ways you properly manage a forest?
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Old 09-14-2020, 05:38 PM
 
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What are some ways you properly manage a forest?
Keeping it thinned out a bit and ensuring the underbrush gets cleared out regularly. Common sense really, but you won't get that in the people's republic of California.
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Old 09-14-2020, 05:38 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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What are some ways you properly manage a forest?
Controlled burns is one.

Culling dead or dying trees. Environmentalist fight both of these measures.
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Old 09-14-2020, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Land Management is the thing that has changed.
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In order of responsibility it goes

1. Lack of proper forest management.
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California clean air policy.
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Lack of forest management #1.


Can't clear the deadfall/kindling because Spotted Owls ....


Like the current inferno is SO much better for the wildlife.

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Lack of forest management.
Lack of maintaining the electrical grid. Power companies have been mandated to use renewables so they've been spending more money on that then on maintaining the old crumbling infrastructure.
And the response below goes unanswered.

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Most of the land burning is under federal jurisdiction. So, poor management by trump.
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