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Without the power high of actually forcing the act sex in and of itself holds no allure.
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Originally Posted by BlakeJones
That's an old unsubstantiated theory - that rape is about power and not about sex. It is very much about sex, much more so than power. Rapists want sex, and an unwilling participant is merely an obstacle
Different rapes are going to have different motivations. For some it is no doubt all about the power, for others it's about sex and opportunity. You can't really lump them all together.
I'm sorry but this is a bit of a ridiculous question. If you were to get down to the actual matter, I think few men are what I would consider rapists. Todays definition of the term is right up there with the perceived definition of a racist. I think that as disgusting of a criminal act that it is, todays justice crusaders could easily convince you that a consensual act that is then regretful for whatever reason by the woman (or man I suppose), could be considered rape....IMHO.
I did a little google search for "rape statistics," and didn't come up with any legitimate sources. I did read somewhere in the 400,000 per year realm (United States).
I just want to know why so many men are rapists.
Since we're discussing "how many" and "so many", we'll need to start with the answers to two questions:
1.) How many men in the U.S. have committed rape?
2.) How many men in the U.S. have NOT committed rape?
Then we can move on to motivation etc.
But unless we start with the answers to BOTH those questions, all anybody can do is make wild accusations and whine about them.
That's an old unsubstantiated theory - that rape is about power and not about sex. It is very much about sex, much more so than power. Rapists want sex, and an unwilling participant is merely an obstacle
While I agree there is an element of power and sex involved, I don't think anyone really knows which one is the primary factor.
One could argue that the "unwilling" part is actually the motivator. More than half of the rapes reported by inmates are perpetuated by jail or prison staff. There is a power dynamic at play. Its also the reason why there is a genre of porn around fantasy rape and force sex. Another case that was discussed (on another board) was a porn actress, Stoya, rape accusation of exboyfriend James Deen also a popular male porn star. He could easily have sex with any number of acquaintances being popular in that industry...
Different rapes are going to have different motivations. For some it is no doubt all about the power, for others it's about sex and opportunity. You can't really lump them all together.
Yeah, I'll roll with that. It is about the sex with like the frat boy rapist. The passed out drunk girl scenario. I do very much believe the power trip one as well though.
The woman rapists that assaulted my friend for them it was ALL about the forced act. The only "gratification " they got was just forcing her to endure what they did to her.
It is a motivating factor for many violent male rapists as well. Misogyny can certainly play a part. Regardless of the motivation all rapists are vermin. Both needing and deserving killing.
I will acquiesce that not every rapist is motivated by the same thing. Seems a hard point not to concede.
One could argue that the "unwilling" part is actually the motivator
I'm sure that's true in many cases, maybe even most - that it's a fetish like excitement. Other cases it's opportunity, and even if physical power is required to violate the victim, that shouldn't be confused with the motivation which is perverse sexual excitement
Rapists violate others' body
Car thieves violate others' property
Armed robbers violate others' property
Murders violate others' right to life.
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Prostitutes (assuming consenting) is just business... a job... no more no less. No different from a boxers willingly to get into a ring and beat the crap out of each other in the name of sport and of course, money.
The best explanation I've heard is there is a close connection between aggressive nature and sex.... we have failed as a society (parenting) to raise men properly to have proper outlet for such aggressions.
Tell it to the John's wife he brings Herpes/HIV home to or the school children that have to walk around used condoms on the side walk in the morning.
Prostitutes rent their body and their behavior making them no longer a human worthy of respect, but a commodity.
If a rapist doesn't see a woman as a another human and worthy of respect, he's not alone in that.
Women also treat men as unworthy of the basic respect we ought to show another human, their called feminists.
Tell it to the John's wife he brings Herpes/HIV home to or the school children that have to walk around used condoms on the side walk in the morning.
Been down this path before.... consenting adults. the issue is John, the husband, not the prostitute yet the blame is on the prostitute? Prostitutes don't corner the market for STDs and STDs can be contracted by promiscuous unsafe sex with non-prostitutes. We just choose to pick on prostitutes because of the stigma. Most working prostitutes (not the desperate street walker) won't perform unprotected... it is in their best interest and business.
There is a study that compared porn actors/actresses versus nevada sex workers STD rates. Porn is widely unprotected sex while Nevada sex workers are required. The rate in porn is higher.
Cheating husband having unprotected sex is going to be risk. Whether money is or is not exchange doesn't change that.
Then there are couples who simply are ok with that behavior within boundaries.... so what about their rights? What about single men?
But I've already told you this several times....
Besides.. you still missed the main point blinded by your self righteousness. The point is that two individuals involved in an act as described in the quoted post. Four of those acts involves one party being deprived of property, life, and body. The deprived person didn't consent. The other act is between consenting adults. Neither party is being deprived. Risky behavior that you object to is irrelevant.
PS. I think most people would place others' "respect" ,views, opinions a distant second to their own personal freedom of choice. I'd give benefit of doubt to a prostitute working to support themselves and family over a self righteous/judgemental person.
I've always read its about control. I'm sure that is part of it, but not all of it. There are multiple motivations. No easy single answer.
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