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Old 09-22-2020, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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It's not about what they would do, it's about what they won't allow to happen by overturning nonsense.
I can understand that. Personally, I have no problem with a conservative S.C., with one caveat: No overturning Roe v. Wade.
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Old 09-22-2020, 07:07 PM
 
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I can understand that. Personally, I have no problem with a conservative S.C., with one caveat: No overturning Roe v. Wade.
Overturning Roe will not be as bad as you think. In that case, each state will pass their own law regarding abortion. Some states will likely have even more evil laws promoting abortion than they do now. Others, quite a bit less, with quite a full spectrum in-between.
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Old 09-22-2020, 07:14 PM
 
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Overturning Roe will not be as bad as you think. In that case, each state will pass their own law regarding abortion. Some states will likely have even more evil laws promoting abortion than they do now. Others, quite a bit less, with quite a full spectrum in-between.
Not if it is illegal federally. What happens when the religious whack-a-loons decide to send in the Feds, ala Portland, to shut down abortion clinics? Of course that will happen, to say nothing of the armed militias who will terrorize the clinics if they continue to operate.
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Old 09-22-2020, 07:21 PM
 
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Not if it is illegal federally. What happens when the religious whack-a-loons decide to send in the Feds, ala Portland, to shut down abortion clinics? Of course that will happen, to say nothing of the armed militias who will terrorize the clinics if they continue to operate.
Overturning Roe does not make it illegal federally. It just vacates the Roe v Wade decision. There is no federal law regarding abortion, aside from Roe, which was written not by Congress, but by the SCOTUS.

If Roe is overturned, that would return the responsibility for abortion law back to each of the 50 states.
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Old 09-22-2020, 07:25 PM
 
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I'm not sure about everyone else, but I would pick a 6-3 conservative Supreme Court over a Trump re-election. A solid conservative court will do more good for America over the long run than just 4 more years of Trump. Ideally we get both, but I will be happy enough if we just get the 6-3 SCOTUS. Then we can strike down every looney thing the left tries to do.

Make The Supreme Court Great Again!
IF Trump were to lose, a 6-3 majority in the court would be a good parting gift. It would make him losing a little easier. I hope he wins regardless, but have a conservative majority in the court trumps what a President can do overall. A big win for the 2nd amendment and religious freedom.
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Old 09-22-2020, 07:28 PM
 
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What would you strike down? How would a conservative court benefit you?

Admit it, you have no clue.
1. reversing the PA court decision to extend voting beyond election day

2. re-address discrimination in hiring (quotas)

3. re-eval Obamacare and declare it an unconstitutional tax

4. overturn any reparations acts (there are no financial damages) by radical legislatures/courts

5. re-affirm private property rights over aggressive EPA "legislation"

6. reverse the Hughes Act as being unconstitutional

7. review the legality of class action suits against manufacturers (modern piracy by the trial lawyers association)


That's just off the top of my head. It would also protect against new radical legislation from the bench in lower courts, which has plagued the US.
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Old 09-22-2020, 07:31 PM
 
Location: The 719
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I'm not sure about everyone else, but I would pick a 6-3 conservative Supreme Court over a Trump re-election. A solid conservative court will do more good for America over the long run than just 4 more years of Trump. Ideally we get both, but I will be happy enough if we just get the 6-3 SCOTUS. Then we can strike down every looney thing the left tries to do.

Make The Supreme Court Great Again!
It's 4-4 right now.

John Roberts is a turncoat.
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Old 09-22-2020, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Overturning Roe does not make it illegal federally. It just vacates the Roe v Wade decision. There is no federal law regarding abortion, aside from Roe, which was written not by Congress, but by the SCOTUS.

If Roe is overturned, that would return the responsibility for abortion law back to each of the 50 states.
That is true, and thanks for that, but don't you think the next logical move would be to criminalize abortion? It doesn't seem a stretch to me that this is the natural progression if Roe v. Wade is vacated by the Supremes.
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Old 09-22-2020, 07:34 PM
 
Location: 2*** Chelmsford Ct, Cary NC
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Not if it is illegal federally. What happens when the religious whack-a-loons decide to send in the Feds, ala Portland, to shut down abortion clinics?
I would be thrilled if they did that. Rather than killing innocent life, we should focus on preventing unwanted pregnancies to begin with. The religious folks should learn to adjust on that and be okay with birth control, rather than baby killing as we have now. It's a much better alternative.
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Old 09-22-2020, 07:35 PM
 
Location: 2*** Chelmsford Ct, Cary NC
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It's 4-4 right now.

John Roberts is a turncoat.
Exactly, which is why we need 6-3, so when the wind blows we still end up with 5-4 in our favor.
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