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You are getting far afield from people who just don't want to be forced to associate with homosexuality and gay marriage in certain instances. Compelling and forcing private individuals to not discriminate isn't the traditional American way to go about it. Most people aren't going to discriminate without some valid reason.
But is a white not wanting to associate with other races a valid reason because he thinks God says in the bible that He intended for the races to keep separate?
It's about forcing private businesses to accept gay marriage and pay benefits when no ones rights have been violated. It is a violation of the property rights of the business owner. The same thing as Jim Crow and it's done by the same party that passed every single Jim Crow law. Consistently at least.
Then surely you're opposed to civil rights laws, which many Democrats supported.
What about the rights of the unborn? You can hardly call an entire party "against human rights" when they fight for the most innocent among us.
Then, bertwrench, please tell us how you or government is supposed to force a pregnant woman to give birth to a baby she doesn't want? But it's probably about as easy as the government forcing two homosexuals from falling in love with each other.
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But is a white not wanting to associate with other races a valid reason because he thinks God says in the bible that He intended for the races to keep separate?
Or Jews. What if someone doesn't want to be forced to associate with Jews?
But is a white not wanting to associate with other races a valid reason because he thinks God says in the bible that He intended for the races to keep separate?
Off topic but yes it's valid to believe God or Mother Nature intends that whether I personally think it is correct or agree or not. It would be hard to impossible to falsify. But why did you say if a "white" believes that? That's pretty telling, anyone could believe that.
Or Jews. What if someone doesn't want to be forced to associate with Jews?
Why wouldn't they want to associate with Jews? Because they think Jesus Christ never really lived? If so, why should it matter? They got separate churches to go to.
The solution to the spiraling disaster surrounding federal judges is simple enough: Knock off the political f-ckery going all the way back to 1975. We had a system that did a pretty damned good job of keeping politics out of the courts.
The President nominates.
2/3 of the Senate confirms, which requires both parties to make concessions and give up their idiot dreams of hyper-partisan extremist judges.
If the Senate does not confirm, the President will have to try again, and again and again -- motivating him to send nominees that have strong bipartisan support.
The President will make recess appointments which absolutely will be partisan -- which should motivate both parties in the Senate to knock off their stupid bickering and make a decision. (Even Senators of the same party as the President vastly prefer to have their say, especially on SCOTUS and federal judges.)
Now I think a simple majority for cabinet members and other federal positions would be fine. The 2/3 majority vote bottleneck is probably untenable for those. But federal judges and especially Supreme Court justices should be protected from political f-ckery. We should go back to the above rules.
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I agree in principle with the above. (BTW I believe it was 60%, not 2/3 that was required). But the real solution is not in a certain threshold. The answer is if we could somehow go back to the day when a court nominee was judged on his or her qualifications, not their political party. If a nominee is well qualified, fair and doesn't have any legal or ethical impediments, they should be confirmed. Period.
Robert Bork should have been confirmed. Merrick Garland should have been confirmed. Brett Kavanaugh was rightly confirmed once it was clear there was no evidence for the legal charges against him. Amy Coney Barrett should also be confirmed.
By the way, I am a liberal and have strong ideological differences with some of the above. That shouldn't matter.
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