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You still didn't answer the question. What is a fair price for healthcare ? Free would be awesome, but nothing is free.
I think the focus should be more on the industry itself. Why the hidden pricing ? Why is out of pocket pricing sometimes less, sometimes more than what the insurance pays ? Why can the hospital and the insurance company negotiate prices, while we can't ?
A flat GST based on peoples gross earnings, whether from wage income for the plebes or capital gains/dividends for the owner class. Perfectly fair
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That's not what I am taking about. Something being stated or not stated in the constitution has no bearing on wether or not something can or can't operate within the realms for the free market.
If the "common defense" or the military can't operate within the realms of the free market, why do conservatives think healthcare can operate within the realms of the free market?
It's because they think it's acceptable for people of lesser means to die of curable ailments if it means they can get that extra Mercedes....
Little old ladies aren't the majority of food stamp recipients. The vast majority are age 35 or younger. For the kids on food stamps, their parents can serve in an FDR-style CCC in exchange for their public assistance benefits.
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Actually, that's true... they could.
Look at where the overpricing occurs. It takes place with the health care providers, themselves. Review my post in this thread if you forgot who's reaming the public via pirate profiteering:
His statement said ONLY the wealthiest got tax cuts. That is a flat out lie. A Lie.
Just a small quote from the WHO IS SAVING most thread
“Most of the tax cut went to businesses and higher income individuals who are less likely to spend the increases,†reads the report. Facts are everyone got a tax break.. Everyone
Here is a link that shows the tables from 2017 and beyond. Easy to read too. https://smartasset.com/taxes/trump-tax-brackets
A lot of the "waste" is in billing which a single payer system would get rid of the current fee for service billing codes
The left wrote it to become a single payer. That was their plan till Hillary failed to win..
Poorly written, very expensive. Wait till you see what a single payer system does. We cant afford it.
Damn people, when did healthcare become such an important thing. Only when you need it, like Cops?
And if the case is as you describe, that situation is in dire need of repair. So please, if Republicans are able to deliver something better, by all means, please do. But, if they're incapable of providing something better, then the ACA should not be repealed and replaced until such time. It makes absolutely no sense to repeal and replace "something" with nothing especially now in times of Covid-19.
It was working just fi e before ACA. It did nothing but ruin healthcare for many millions of Americans and gave catastrophic care for those that didn't qualify for medicaid but couldn't afford a family policy or were not offered healthcare by their employer.
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It was working just fi e before ACA. It did nothing but ruin healthcare for many millions of Americans and gave catastrophic care for those that didn't qualify for medicaid but couldn't afford a family policy or were not offered healthcare by their employer.
Really? I remember the BCBS plan I had in the Bush years, premiums were raised 15% every year, even though I wasn't getting 15% pay raises to off set the premium jacking!
No, it's because it's a bad law. It drove up premiums and deductibles for EVERYONE. Access is limited in many places. People can't even afford to use their plans.
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The vast majority are age 35 or younger. For the kids on food stamps, their parents can serve in an FDR-style CCC in exchange for their public assistance benefits. 
