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Yes it can...if most are wearing the masks...wish we could've been more like Taiwan (7 deaths) and New Zealand (25 deaths) where mask wearing is universal...our non-mask wearing super spreader President is responsible (225K deaths with rapidly rising numbers)...blew it big time on covid!
Do you have a scientific study available that definitively states mask wearing is what caused such low numbers in those 2 examples you've used?
Are you also aware that Taiwan and NZ had some of the strictest, most brutal lockdowns in the world where people were barely allowed to leave home if even 1 person in the country even sneezed? Did you maybe consider frequent hand washing and extreme social distancing and isolation as alternative, viable reasons for such statistics? Of course you did not. You just conclude that masks stopped it.
If masks really did magically stop the pandemic, most of Europe (heavily masked) wouldn't be suffering from a second wave right now.
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You have every right to protect yourself as you see fit. Wear a mask. Wear two masks. Wear a face shield. Wear six masks *and* a face shield. You do not, however, no matter what you believe, have a right to demand that I take similar measures on your behalf. The dragons running rampant in your mind are yours, and yours alone, to wrestle.
No person has the right to mandate that we do anything to protect them. We're not cops.
Do you have a scientific study available that definitively states mask wearing is what caused such low numbers in those 2 examples you've used?
Are you also aware that Taiwan and NZ had some of the strictest, most brutal lockdowns in the world where people were barely allowed to leave home if even 1 person in the country even sneezed? Did you maybe consider frequent hand washing and extreme social distancing and isolation as alternative, viable reasons for such statistics? Of course you did not. You just conclude that masks stopped it.
If masks really did magically stop the pandemic, most of Europe (heavily masked) wouldn't be suffering from a second wave right now.
Not to mention that in many places across the US there were mask mandates, yet still those same places had spikes over the summer.
Of course, that just makes the mask cultists attack their fellow citizens for alleged non-compliance. It would be nice if they would use their brains, for once, and question how a cloth bandana is going to stop the spread of a virus that is less than 0.3 microns in diameter.
It can save lives and science shows it. At some point, we have to realize that the truth is the truth and that with some issues our opinions really don't matter.
Quoting NPR on the efficacy of mask wearing is like me quoting Ted Kennedy to show that drinking lots of alcohol makes you a better driver when you're near water.
NPR has such extreme bias that anything that comes from them should be scrutinized.
Too many of you think the mask is the ONLY thing you can do, that's the BEST thing you can do, or that it's responsible for X percent of spread or not. Those things are not - and never were - paraded as true. Why do you have to be so black and white about it?
There is some evidence that wearing a mask IF YOU ARE SICK can keep your germs from flying as far as they might. Unless you're prepared to overturn the laws of physics, that logic seems fairly sound. Now - to what degree does this mitigate the spread of COVID. I do not know. Neither do you. But logic says It Ain't Zero. And dosage does matter. So that's good enough for me, as is covering my mouth when I sneeze since I was old enough to get scolded by my grandmother for not doing so.
Remember, people - masks are MAINLY to stop the Sick YOU from spreading it. Only about 1% of you are presently contagious, and half of that knows it and is home (I hope). So pretty much 99% of you are indeed wearing it for nothing - but THERE IS NO WAY TO KNOW WHO.
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LOL @ "several months." Do you really believe that? After "two weeks to flatten the curve"?
Yes, I'm inclined to believe "several more months". As in, 6 more.
I guess we'll see.
I'm seeing a lot of mask fatigue, and a lot of people who are otherwise cautious taking their masks off once everyone is seated, or going for walks in pairs and 3s without masks.
The early initial goal, of "flattening the curve" and sickening the public at a rate that could be handled with our supply of ventilators and ICU beds is long gone, but if this recent enormous spike in cases doesn't result in a similar enormous spike in deaths, I think the public will be ready to move forward.
Quoting NPR on the efficacy of mask wearing is like me quoting Ted Kennedy to show that drinking lots of alcohol makes you a better driver when you're near water.
NPR has such extreme bias that anything that comes from them should be scrutinized.
NPR is pretty center with maybe a slight left-lean. Breitbart, the Blaze, OAN, Huffington Post, a random Woke You-Tube video etc. those are biased sources. Just because it agrees with you doesn't make it right.
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