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Old 10-26-2020, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Lee County, NC
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Originally Posted by mirage98de View Post
Why would pedo joe lock us in our houses for three months if the democrat face diapers are effective???

Why doesn’t the ‘rona spread during BLM domestic terrorism events, but kills anyone who attends a motorcycle rally?????

So many unanswered questions about this virus!!!!!!
It's obvious, the Democrats colluded with China to release the virus in an attempt to kill Trump supporters!





That's entirely BS, of course. But it doesn't sound any less realistic than much of what the left spews on a daily basis.

 
Old 10-26-2020, 07:04 AM
 
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Since nearly everyone wears a mask, no one knows who the really vulnerable are or who has it with symptoms. I might stay much further back from someone if I had that information. Not too mention mask wearers have been lulled into a false sense of security in that thinking since they wear a mask constantly, they will be kept safe.
 
Old 10-26-2020, 07:05 AM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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Which would be fine except for the fact that you've acknowledged that you don't wear one inside of private businesses that may or may not agree with your local government mandates.

See, this is why I loathe Republicans/Trumpers.

From the get go you guys could have made this a property rights issue just like the gay wedding cakes.

In my house/business you must wear a mask, panties on your head, and jump on one foot. If not, get out.

In your house/business I do as you say or don't enter/leave when requested to do something I don't want to do. Have me naked for all I care. I'll decide.

But you guys insist on going around all over the place and refuse to comply with the wishes of private property owners on their own damn property.

Allegedly the party closer to Natural Law I expect better of you. Well, actually I don't. I know your M.O.

At least Team Blue is honest about what they believe in. They want mask gestapos going around on private and non-privatized land making sure we all wear masks, walk in a straight line, don't curse, etc. It's vile but at least they admit their authoritarian proclivities.
perhaps that one, or a few, have said "I go into businesses and do not wear a mask regardless of their rules."

Did he or someone?

I wear a mask generally according to the rules in place. That means indoors in public, and I know my daughter's nearby college town requires them "out in public". If my city has one about walking outside I'm not aware of it and I will readily admit I do not follow such - I walk through parking lots and on sidewalks without, and slip the mask on before entering buildings.

So am I some loathsome Republican because of this? Or maybe because I yield to the unlawful force of government?
 
Old 10-26-2020, 07:10 AM
 
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The sad thing is that there are people in the US who refuse to use masks without a mandate. Masks are an imperfect tool, but right now they are one of the few that we have.

The best is the enemy of the good.

It's up to the states to issue mandates, so there will be no one doing it for the entire country. Start issuing tickets and substantial fines. Issue enough tickets and mask use would go up substantially, I suspect.

Here is what Australia is doing:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-...ifies/12484876

Australia has hefty fines for breaking quarantine and is using the military to enforce it.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKCN25005D

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-...venue/12498310
Absolutely draconian.
 
Old 10-26-2020, 07:49 AM
 
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It's up to the states to issue mandates, so there will be no one doing it for the entire country.
Well now, someone who at least understands the first level of the issue.

UP
TO
THE
STATES

Now, using my own home state of OH as a reference point and echoing Frank here, I don't go anywhere where mask compliance is less than like 95%, where social distancing signs, indicators, etc are EVERYWHERE, where every surface is wiped down every 3 seconds, etc...and yet in Emperor DeWine's kingdom, people still get covid. Masked people who socially distance, mind you.

Because while the risk is reduced, the virus molecule itself has no trouble going through masks. It doesn't seem to have issues traveling more than 6 feet. Sure, nobody can sneeze on me or INITIALLY project their molecules as far as they could unmasked, but their exhalations still come out from behind their masks in a diffused area around their head. The mask does nothing but change the shape and distance of the initial area of effect. Instead of the claymore directing the blast in a cone, you have a standard grenade that has a spherical AoE, with the center point being each person's head. No matter what though, each exhalation is going to the environment. Whatever they are exhaling...it's in the atmosphere, and like odor molecules and fresh freaking air, even with a mask on, you are breathing that air.

Real quick guide to entropy here - the gas phase of matter is most chaotic. It follows the least amount of order within it's container. For the open atmosphere, the numerical value for that amount of order is essentially zero. Point being, it doesn't need linear pathways within 6 feet to move about. Gas molecules bounce around and do whatever they want. So if the molecule comes out the side of a mask or directly from the mouth of the unmasked heathen, the gas molecule is in the open, no boundary container called "the atmosphere. And while you may not be within 6 feet at the point of one exhalation at the moment it occurs, entropy says you are never NOT within 6 feet of a prior exhalation.

And if your mask stopped that evil water droplet with its nefarious covid payload...that payload is on your mask. You know that mask, the one you wear every day for a month like everyone else because really, you are going through a new mask every 4 hours? No, you aren't, and neither is anyone else. We are all reusing these placebo virtue signalers for at least a few days to a week, if not longer...so anything that mask blocked IS ON THE MASK. Are you really following NBC anti-contamination protocols every time you mask and unmask? I'll tell you right now that you aren't because these masks aren't NBC or even decently anti-pollution compliant. They are nothing more than salad bar anti-sneeze guards writ large (and insane).

This leads back to my question and overall point - how do you even evaluate these mandated covid defenses when they cannot stop the virus itself? If you see the maskless person, sure, fine them, cage them, whatever. But if you go anywhere with any sort of recirculated atmosphere (ex-submariner here, I know how recirculated environments work), the rule for "you did walk directly into a prior exhalation, at least a few thousand times since you set foot inside this enclosed atmosphere" is in effect ALWAYS, and unless your "mask" is an NBC compliant artificial enclosed atmosphere, you are, in fact, inhaling a few thousand prior exhalations with every single breath and that mask isn't stopping a freaking thing.

Logical conclusion - the only way you stop this thing with government force is total shut down and 100% absolute quarantine like out of some dystopian fiction. Nobody leaves their home for 3 weeks. Not even to go out to the front yard. Anything less fails, because entropy and the nature of the gas phase of matter say lol, good luck stopping teeny tiny gas molecules from going wherever chaos takes them.

Until then, masks are a tool for government to test how easily they can control the population and have zero to do with stopping covid.
 
Old 10-26-2020, 08:18 AM
 
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A) Why are you responding to your own post?
B) You understand what you just wrote sounds like a crazy person wrote it right?
C) Oh, I get it; you're schizophrenic. Carry on.
Go ahead and call me a crazy person and schizophrenic. Spread those sicknesses on me all you want. Just remember the origin.

You have attacked the messenger, while never mentioning what I wrote as untrue. Because you can't.

I don't have a warped view of the UniVerse. That is what the theory of General Relativity claims. And that is what you have tried to apply to me.

Is it universal mask wearing or universal muzzling that is being sought these days. Or both.
 
Old 10-26-2020, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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another example of IHME projections:

http://www.healthdata.org/sites/defa...ate_040120.pdf

On April 1, they projected 7,334 deaths in AL through the "first wave" (expected to peak April 16).

Today, AL has 2,886 deaths.
 
Old 10-26-2020, 08:40 AM
 
Location: King County, WA
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If I encounter somebody not wearing a mask, I'm going to stay further away from them. I'll also suspect they're a lazy, selfish jerk. But that's just me managing my odds.
 
Old 10-26-2020, 08:42 AM
 
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If I encounter somebody not wearing a mask, I'm going to stay further away from them. I'll also suspect they're a lazy, selfish jerk. But that's just me managing my odds.
If I see someone with a mask, I see someone that is afraid of what people tell them more than being afraid of what actually happens... Unless they are in a place that requires them...
 
Old 10-26-2020, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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I'm not a scientist (nor does it appear many are on the board; there's a few Docs) but ...

knowing it's all about the viral load, let's say I catch a breath or 3 of lightly-Covid laced air. And then I put the mask on. And then I breathe it out into the mask, and breathe it back in. Over and over. Is it not possible - maybe even likely - that my body/immune system would overcome that initial light load, but when I trap it and allow it to replicate every single breath that a higher viral load occurs?

Again, I'm no scientist but it's food for thought until someone can educate us.
It is not replicating in your breath. It requires the genetic machinery of a cell to do that. It would be replicating in cells of your nose, mouth, and lungs whether you were wearing a mask or not.
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