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Old 11-18-2020, 02:46 PM
 
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How can one precinct, have 30,000 more votes than they do registered voters?
They say from same-day registrations.

However, even Australia where you can be fined if you don't vote - they don't get that. They still get precincts with 90 to 95% turn out rates. Not 100+%. There are always dead voters still on the rolls, people who moved and are still registered in their old place where they didn't vote, and and people who simply don't vote and pay the fine. The BBC before 2020 actually had a story how 100+% of a vote in a precinct is a sign of fraud based on stats. Now you make that same claim and Twitter flags you as fake news.
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Old 11-18-2020, 02:56 PM
 
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They say from same-day registrations.

However, even Australia where you can be fined if you don't vote - they don't get that. They still get precincts with 90 to 95% turn out rates. Not 100+%. There are always dead voters still on the rolls, people who moved and are still registered in their old place where they didn't vote, and and people who simply don't vote and pay the fine. The BBC before 2020 actually had a story how 100+% of a vote in a precinct is a sign of fraud based on stats. Now you make that same claim and Twitter flags you as fake news.

you are comparing eligible population to voters in Austrailia, here you are comparing registered voters to votes. Its not the same thing at all. You do understand that....right?
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Old 11-18-2020, 03:04 PM
 
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That happens every election but isn't the norm and is usually a very, very small percentage (well under 1%) of the vote.

If reports are true that there were thousands of ballots like that in a district it becomes a statistical anomaly and does raise suspicions.
It's not that uncommon. It can even go the reverse, where a chunk of people don't vote for President but do vote down ballot.

"2016, 136,669,276 voted for president while only 131,652,458 voted for a member of the House. In 2012, 129,085,410 voted for president while only 124,793,115 voted for a Congress member. In 2008, 131,313,820 voted for president while only 122,959,841 voted for a House representative. And in 2004, 122,295,345 voted for president while only 114,413,842 voted for a House member."

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/v...2-d85085fe5c0b

They are also leaving out a key piece of data. How many president only votes did Trump get? That will certainly help suss out if this is actually suspect or not.
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Old 11-18-2020, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Trump was one of the most unpopular presidents in history, people in his own party were highly critical of him so what's so hard to understand. The reaction may have been to the far left wing of the democratic party, the riots or the republicans scare tactics that we were going to become Venezuela.
Many people don't like Trump on a personal level, but they love his policies, both domestic and foreign. Complain about Trump's personality all you like, but his policies have been nothing but good for the USA and the world.


If not for this China plague, our economy would be very strong. If Trump gets reelected, we may even finally see peace in the Mid East. Trump's been the first president in 40 years not to start a new war, at least you can praise him for that. Or are there just too many war mongers in the Democratic Party and on the left?
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Old 11-18-2020, 04:11 PM
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It's not that uncommon. It can even go the reverse, where a chunk of people don't vote for President but do vote down ballot.

"2016, 136,669,276 voted for president while only 131,652,458 voted for a member of the House. In 2012, 129,085,410 voted for president while only 124,793,115 voted for a Congress member. In 2008, 131,313,820 voted for president while only 122,959,841 voted for a House representative. And in 2004, 122,295,345 voted for president while only 114,413,842 voted for a House member."

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/v...2-d85085fe5c0b

They are also leaving out a key piece of data. How many president only votes did Trump get? That will certainly help suss out if this is actually suspect or not.
It was very small. I've seen it, but don't remember what it was.
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Old 11-18-2020, 04:24 PM
 
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It was very small. I've seen it, but don't remember what it was.
Oh thank you, I can see from the numbers and links that you provided that this is true.
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Old 11-18-2020, 04:32 PM
 
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This election was the Revenge of the Never Trumpers. The Never Trumper Republicans voted for Biden but voted for Republican senators and congresspersons. Explains the results we got perfectly.
Yeah except for the fact that democrats out number republicans. Lets be honest. People aren't all that happy with the democrats either. The blind support for the racist BLM org and Antifa thugs opened more than a few eyes. The Dems learned a few things from the 2016 election. The mail in ballot effort was brilliant. To bad they once again ignored their base in favor of the extremists.
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Old 11-18-2020, 04:34 PM
 
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Ms Snark, I do not recall many, if any reports on that phenomenon. So, no.
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Did you wonder about those things in 2012, 2016 or just 2020.
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Old 11-18-2020, 04:37 PM
 
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There you go, a thoughtful - non-snark - response. Appreciate the analysis. I also agree with your last statement.
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It's not that uncommon. It can even go the reverse, where a chunk of people don't vote for President but do vote down ballot.

"2016, 136,669,276 voted for president while only 131,652,458 voted for a member of the House. In 2012, 129,085,410 voted for president while only 124,793,115 voted for a Congress member. In 2008, 131,313,820 voted for president while only 122,959,841 voted for a House representative. And in 2004, 122,295,345 voted for president while only 114,413,842 voted for a House member."

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/v...2-d85085fe5c0b

They are also leaving out a key piece of data. How many president only votes did Trump get? That will certainly help suss out if this is actually suspect or not.
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Old 11-18-2020, 04:45 PM
 
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you are comparing eligible population to voters in Austrailia, here you are comparing registered voters to votes. Its not the same thing at all. You do understand that....right?
I get that it isn't a perfect apples to apples comparison. But the BBC ran this article on how to detect voter fraud back in 2016 and since a couple of the points they make came up this time it is now getting flagged by Twitter as what some call "fake news."

They point out that it is a sign of voter fraud to have such high turnouts in specific areas (where counting is delayed at that). Those precincts would have some not voting, some no longer living there, some dead. It is highly unlikely to have so many precincts exceeding 100% even with same day registration.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-37243190
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