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So were Trump's - his mother was not born in the United States. This country is proud to be a nation of immigrants, and haters are free to leave and go elsewhere.
She was a naturalized US citizen BEFORE Donald Trump's birth.
If a US Citizen is the same thing as a natural born citizen why would the Constitution even bother to use both terms?:
Art. II, Sec. 1 No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States...
So here we have two types of citizens. If they were the same there would be no need to make the distinction.
There was no need to define the differences. Because it's well known.
If you and your wife visit the planet Mars and have a baby there, is your baby a Martian? Is your baby a US Citizen? Is your baby a natural born Citizen of the USA? Of Mars?
Your ellipses are deceptive. Is this the way you think political discussions should take place, with intentional d3ception as the means of supporting an argument?
The full text of that clause is:
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;
It is incredibly obvious that the “or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution” is to allow for people like George Washington to be president. After the generation of people born prior to 1789 died out, this phrase became obsolete and irrelevant.
Making up your own interpretation to suit your political preferences is certainly your choice, but you should realize that it means absolutely nothing.
Your ellipses are deceptive. Is this the way you think political discussions should take place, with intentional d3ception as the means of supporting an argument?
The full text of that clause is:
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;
You look'in for after to replace at?
Sticks and stones, but words will never impress you.
Yeww!
Take a course to improve your decipherabilities for useful comprehension.
Where ya gonna find a natural born citizen prior to the adoption of the US Constitution?
The Constitution just happened to be THE LAW OF THE LAND.
People born on the land of the law, of parents of citizens of the land of the law, are natural born citizens of the land of the law.
Land of the law is law of the land. (See the Constitution)
A security guard at the RML warned me, as a retired police officer of Chicago, that many people he pulled over, informed them that he was the law, to inform me, forget your contract with the Rocky Mountain Laboratories, that Mark Mora was the law.
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Sticks and stones, but words will never impress you.
Eww!
Take a course to improve your decipherabilities for useful comprehension.
Where ya gonna find a natural born citizen prior to the adoption of the US Constitution?
Yikes. You are chastising me for reading comprehension when you obviously have none of your own?
Here are the basics. The constitution was written to address current (ca 1789) issues as well as form a basis for future law. So the phrase we are discussing addresses future presidents by using the term “natural born”, and limiting it to the group of natural born, as well as then current needs for presidents, by clarifying that the founding generation alive prior to 1789 could be president because of the special circumstances of a new nation.
This has been the understanding of this phrase by every jurist and political scholar for over 200 years, and only when Obama became president did fringe republicans attempt to twist into something it clearly does not say.
Damn, but some people have such a limited knowledge of our founding documents and subsequent history it cause me to think maybe we should haves knowledge test before allowing people to vote.
Yikes. You are chastising me for reading comprehension when you obviously have none of your own?
Here are the basics. The constitution was written to address current (ca 1789) issues as well as form a basis for future law. So the phrase we are discussing addresses future presidents by using the term “natural born”, and limiting it to the group of natural born, as well as then current needs for presidents, by clarifying that the founding generation alive prior to 1789 could be president because of the special circumstances of a new nation.
This has been the understanding of this phrase by every jurist and political scholar for over 200 years, and only when Obama became president did fringe republicans attempt to twist into something it clearly does not say.
Damn, but some people have such a limited knowledge of our founding documents and subsequent history it cause me to think maybe we should haves knowledge test before allowing people to vote.
Only the Naturalized citizen would be able to vote then, because it is only them, that could past the test.
Actually, the definition was written to expressly include slaves born in the United States. All born in the United States are US Citizens.
Not really. The original US Constitution does not provide individuals with the right to vote. It delegates that to the states.
The 14th Amendment of 1868 gives all citizens equal rights, which therefore includes former slaves. It has taken quite some time for people to understand this though.
Yikes. You are chastising me for reading comprehension when you obviously have none of your own?
Here are the basics. The constitution was written to address current (ca 1789) issues as well as form a basis for future law. So the phrase we are discussing addresses future presidents by using the term “natural born”, and limiting it to the group of natural born, as well as then current needs for presidents, by clarifying that the founding generation alive prior to 1789 could be president because of the special circumstances of a new nation.
This has been the understanding of this phrase by every jurist and political scholar for over 200 years, and only when Obama became president did fringe republicans attempt to twist into something it clearly does not say.
Damn, but some people have such a limited knowledge of our founding documents and subsequent history it cause me to think maybe we should haves knowledge test before allowing people to vote.
Oh just quit chiseling the Constitution!
Just put your chisel back in your pocket and go sculpt something innocuous.
Try to vote for a non-globalist person.
Vote for someone who can be trusted with this country.
First you steal the election, then you want to help China steal the country.
Shame on you.
You can just kiss my Trump . . . . . card!
I got you on the time line, that differentiates at from after.
I learned from Perry Mason, who has shown how you can't be in two places at the same time.
At is at, and after is after.
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This time it may be Birthers plus “the huge election fraud” mixed together. But wait, did you forget about the “huge” mask Biden was wearing in his basement? They want to take away American people’s “constitutional right” to breathe!
Give it a couple months and 70% of Trump voters will believe Harris is not really a natural born citizen and demand to see her birth certificate.
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