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Old 12-29-2020, 04:51 AM
 
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Yep, every job is beneath them cuz they don't want to work.

So you would gladly take a minimum wage part time job when you get kicked out of your white collar job? You say any job is better than no job, even if it doesnt come close to meeting your financial needs. News if you do, you will give up everything financed, and be dang lucky to find a room to rent. Course then your boss decides he doesnt need you for couple weeks, then your landlord evicts you and no new landlord will rent to you cause you have been evicted. Yep, the life of Riley.....NOT!
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Old 12-29-2020, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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If people can stand in line at the food bank, why can't businesses open up to employ them? Seriously, it is time for the Democratic dives to get back to work. In central KS, the majority of the people here have worked through the pandemic providing meats, pet food, and other food items for those that have sat at home in the Democratic dives. A stimulus check isn't going to do that much good at this point with people so far behind. Get tough with those Democratic leaders and tell them you want to go back to work!

Wait until China Joe gives a thumbs up to China if you think there are problems now.
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Old 12-29-2020, 06:27 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Thousands of Central Texans are facing hunger because of the pandemic. The need isn’t going away any time soon.

https://www.austinmonitor.com/storie...any-time-soon/
Only the Austin Mayor..... Who has closed down the bars and restaurants... but no one is consenting this time around...
Enough is enough.
The rest of Texas is open for business.
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Old 12-29-2020, 07:03 PM
 
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If people can stand in line at the food bank, why can't businesses open up to employ them? Seriously, it is time for the Democratic dives to get back to work. In central KS, the majority of the people here have worked through the pandemic providing meats, pet food, and other food items for those that have sat at home in the Democratic dives. A stimulus check isn't going to do that much good at this point with people so far behind. Get tough with those Democratic leaders and tell them you want to go back to work!

Wait until China Joe gives a thumbs up to China if you think there are problems now.

Both Texas and California, the hospitals ARE FULL. Just cause your right wing trash news doesnt mention this, doesnt mean it isnt happening.



We have more dead covid than died in battle during WWII and people still dont get it. Look at the country with strongest economy right now, its CHINA cause they dealt with it in harsh manner. They got it under control and going back to work, while our prez was promoting lysol injections and light bulb enemas. Anymore he is too busy on golf course and "warp speed" of vaccine has turned into "snail speed". He is still trying to convince even one court to take his bid to overturn the election seriously. Golf and getting laughed out of court seem to be his only occupations right now.



The point being, the economy is in the poop can until the virus is under control. Buisness opening when their customers are lined up at emergency room or in the morgue isnt going do much for anybody.
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Old 12-30-2020, 11:44 PM
 
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So you would gladly take a minimum wage part time job when you get kicked out of your white collar job? You say any job is better than no job, even if it doesnt come close to meeting your financial needs. News if you do, you will give up everything financed, and be dang lucky to find a room to rent. Course then your boss decides he doesnt need you for couple weeks, then your landlord evicts you and no new landlord will rent to you cause you have been evicted. Yep, the life of Riley.....NOT!
So you think people should get unemployment pay indefinitely until they can find a job they deem is acceptable to them?

So if someone lives beyond their means, spends every last penny of their pay on a fancy lifestyle.
They should be entitled to receive help indefinitely to continue to live that lifestyle?

Why do you think they recommend you only spend 30% of your pay on housing?
Of course some people knows nothing about personal responsibility or accountability, they just know it's just so damn easy to ask for a handout, or claim to be hungry or can't pay this or that.
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Old 12-31-2020, 07:15 AM
 
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So you think people should get unemployment pay indefinitely until they can find a job they deem is acceptable to them?

So if someone lives beyond their means, spends every last penny of their pay on a fancy lifestyle.
They should be entitled to receive help indefinitely to continue to live that lifestyle?

Why do you think they recommend you only spend 30% of your pay on housing?
Of course some people knows nothing about personal responsibility or accountability, they just know it's just so damn easy to ask for a handout, or claim to be hungry or can't pay this or that.
I do not believe that anyone should indefinitely be on unemployment.

This is a worldwide pandemic. The UN chief says COVID-19 is worst crisis since World War II.

Hospitals are full... they are talking about having to ration care.

You and I don't know how much of their pay these "other people" spent on anything... housing, cars... not anything...

It's a fact that many of these people have never been in this situation, asking for a handout... I'm pretty darn sure that they don't want to be included in this statistic.

It's unfortunate that so many want to point their finger and judge others without looking at the circumstances that have brought them there - especially right now.

We are all in this together.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/...ar-ii-69905340
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Old 12-31-2020, 07:55 AM
 
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So you think people should get unemployment pay indefinitely until they can find a job they deem is acceptable to them?

So if someone lives beyond their means, spends every last penny of their pay on a fancy lifestyle.
They should be entitled to receive help indefinitely to continue to live that lifestyle?

Why do you think they recommend you only spend 30% of your pay on housing?
Of course some people knows nothing about personal responsibility or accountability, they just know it's just so damn easy to ask for a handout, or claim to be hungry or can't pay this or that.
This concept is ridiculous. If someone is making say $100,000 and they are a family of four take home pay would be roughly $2,600 every two weeks so $5,200/month give or take. Now let's breakdown their hypothetical expenses:

Housing - $1,800/mo (roughly 21% of gross monthly pay or 31% of net monthly pay)
2 car payments - total $700
groceries - $500
utilities - $250
cells - $200
tv/internet - $150
entertainment - $400

They now have $1,200 left over every month to save. But and this is a big BUT, this also assuming no credit card bills, no student loans, no extra expenses, no kid related expenses, no 401K saving. Throw those in and they are probably close to breaking even monthly. To me, I wouldn't say they are living beyond their means at all. No extravagant vacations, no insane car payments, etc. Even the housing payment is probably on the low end. Now say the breadwinner loses their job due to Covid how the hell do you expect them to not be underwater and really quick too? Yes, there are certain people that live beyond their means, but there are also people that do not and through no fault of their own find themselves in a horrible position. The stimulus checks are the tax payers money and if you have worked you have always paid into unemployment. In a time of need like this people need help.
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Old 01-02-2021, 02:25 PM
 
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Than you Brenan!!! It's really not that hard to see! Big businesses needed bail out money, yet, for the average Joe, people like the other poster want to blame them for, uhmmm, living! You can save for rainy days, yet, when you start spending all your rainy day money after, uhmmm, COVID hits your city hard(I live in L.A.), you still have the same bills with no opportunity to offset it. Why? Well, all people with the description you describe want to provide and enjoy working. Nothing is comfortable about struggling and worrying. Yet, now with so many out of work here, being our businesses can only operate at 20% capacity, no inside or outside dining, when and if a company does have an opening millions of college educated people are applying for that exact job. So, getting called for an interview becomes the equivalent of winning the lottery.
Meanwhile, our morgues are filled to the brink, people are being treated inside hospital giftshops and patients line the ER hallways, ambulances are waiting 8 hours at the hospital as there is no more doom inside the ER, which is causing people who have called 911 to have to call back because its been 40 minutes and still no ambulance, so now 3rd party, private ambulances are pitching in, while we have zero percent capacity for ICU beds. Note: standard emergencies like heart attacks, car accidents, strokes, etc are still happening and need immediate care, the kind an EMT cannot resolve. The Army Corps of Engineers was called in because 6 hospitals declared internal disaster because the system that brings oxygen into patient rooms is failing, so those 6 hospitals were unable to provide oxygen or oxygen properly and the engineers need to restructure it, which in the meantime those hospitals were refusing new ambulance brought in patients as they couldnt properly care for them. Yet, that other poster wants to proclaim people are just living beyond their means. This is a once in a lifetime crisis! People should be helped! The entire EU, UK, and Japan have no problems looking out for their people during this time.
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Old 01-02-2021, 05:31 PM
 
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This concept is ridiculous. If someone is making say $100,000 and they are a family of four take home pay would be roughly $2,600 every two weeks so $5,200/month give or take. Now let's breakdown their hypothetical expenses:

Housing - $1,800/mo (roughly 21% of gross monthly pay or 31% of net monthly pay)
2 car payments - total $700
groceries - $500
utilities - $250
cells - $200
tv/internet - $150
entertainment - $400

They now have $1,200 left over every month to save. But and this is a big BUT, this also assuming no credit card bills, no student loans, no extra expenses, no kid related expenses, no 401K saving. Throw those in and they are probably close to breaking even monthly. To me, I wouldn't say they are living beyond their means at all. No extravagant vacations, no insane car payments, etc. Even the housing payment is probably on the low end. Now say the breadwinner loses their job due to Covid how the hell do you expect them to not be underwater and really quick too? Yes, there are certain people that live beyond their means, but there are also people that do not and through no fault of their own find themselves in a horrible position. The stimulus checks are the tax payers money and if you have worked you have always paid into unemployment. In a time of need like this people need help.
The 30% is a baseline, but everyone is different because you could be single, or married or have children.
My point is that you need to plan accordingly with your expenses as to events like becoming unemployed.
And make adjustments when needed.

Each state has their own unemployment fund, and pool of money, yes it can run out. Why do you think they set it at 6 months? Do you know what happens when it runs out, if you prolong everyone's unemployment benefits? States will need to borrow money to continue to fund it.

As I pointed out back in 2008 to 2012, unemployment was a lot higher back then, did we have all these
handouts or crying and begging? How did people survive back then?
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Old 01-02-2021, 06:14 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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This concept is ridiculous. If someone is making say $100,000 and they are a family of four take home pay would be roughly $2,600 every two weeks so $5,200/month give or take. Now let's breakdown their hypothetical expenses:

Housing - $1,800/mo (roughly 21% of gross monthly pay or 31% of net monthly pay)
2 car payments - total $700
groceries - $500
utilities - $250
cells - $200
tv/internet - $150
entertainment - $400

They now have $1,200 left over every month to save. But and this is a big BUT, this also assuming no credit card bills, no student loans, no extra expenses, no kid related expenses, no 401K saving. Throw those in and they are probably close to breaking even monthly. To me, I wouldn't say they are living beyond their means at all. No extravagant vacations, no insane car payments, etc. Even the housing payment is probably on the low end. Now say the breadwinner loses their job due to Covid how the hell do you expect them to not be underwater and really quick too? Yes, there are certain people that live beyond their means, but there are also people that do not and through no fault of their own find themselves in a horrible position. The stimulus checks are the tax payers money and if you have worked you have always paid into unemployment. In a time of need like this people need help.
It would be a cold day in hell that I ever spend $100 a month for a cellphone.... Get a cheaper plan.

Car payments I assume $350 a month each? Maybe dont buy a new car every 3 years? I never had 2 car payments at once and never will. Hell Ill never have even 1 again.

Utilities seems fair for the states

TV internet? A little high. May Sat was $75 and DSL was $45. If you hurt for money you dont need cable or Sat. Internet is a tool, or can be.

Groceries are fair.

Entertainment???????
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