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Yes. Arizona has been HORRIBLE with payouts. Many have waited months and never had an update. That or were wrongfully accused of fraud and had their cases closed with no appeal and forced to pay back their money. Others only got it for one single week and thats it.
I have relatives in here in California and Colorado that have been jerked around as well and didn't get what they were rightfully due. They've tried and tried and gotten absolutely nowhere in either case. My wife has friends here who were also given the run around. I've read it's not uncommon. These people are hurting due to no fault of their own and their govt has turned their back on them.
Never heard back? Hmm. The DOL in most states were overwhelmed with applications and there was a big delay, but eventually it got caught up and people got paid.
Cut off suddenly? Hmm. I think you mean they made easier for anyone to get unemployment benefits. For the first time ever, even independent freelancers were allowed.
Only the very low income earners received more in UE? Yeah, keep making things up.
Bottomline, these people simply didn't pay because the gov't suspended eviction and payment.
If there was no such suspension, they would have easily been able to pay.
Not what I heard with AZ and I have heard this many times since March when initial claims started piling in. As stated in a previous post in this thread and several other threads about being on the DOL for the pandemic. AZ's Department of Economic Security has long been criticized over the pandemic due to high call volumes, no responses for cases and lots of alleged fraud but in reality there is none. Some even got one week's pay and then it stops. Others have seen payouts, then it disappears and there is no appeal possible. ABC15 has put out MANY stories on AZ's DES as has NBC12 and their problems during the pandemic.
I have long said we should have UBI throughout the pandemic since unemployment in states have been flawed and do not include those that have two or three jobs and lost income from their other jobs but still are able to work one job.
The above was in reply to a comment about how evil Pelosi is, blaming her for the small amount. Admittedly, I have not been following this so closely, but this is what it SOUNDS like to me.
1. Pelosi wanted more but R's said no.
2. Finally, biden conviced the Dems to take the smaller amount becuse "something is better than nothing" and R's really hold the power here.
3. Pelosi took the smaller amount, Which Trump said he'd sign the bill if presented to him.
4. Trump is not refusing to sign the bill, asking for more (which the Dems asked for and were declined) and blaming Pelosin and the Dems.
Who is playing politics today? And how do you come to that opinion?
And also, Trump was saying a lot about how much "other stuff" is in that bill. I think it's probably true, but how much is new spending, and how much of that is just stuff that was already precidence spending?
Just seems like Pelosi is not the only playing politics. Notice i didn't say she wasn't playing, just that she's not the only one. Are people willing to be honest that it's both sides, but that in this case both sides came together and Trump, renegging on his word, is NOW the hold-up. (Regardless of, and/or along with what transpired leading up to today)?
Discuss, and if you'd like to be taken serious on either side, then keep it civil and back with facts. Stay away from the "support my side at all costs mentality, if you can...
December 23rd... and NOW there is still no bill.
Are they staying in Washington this week to get something done?
I agree that $600 is not enough money for a single person but WHY didn't the president work with them during the week long process so that this would be resolved right now instead of prolonging the process by refusing to sign it??
Are they staying in Washington this week to get something done?
I agree that $600 is not enough money for a single person but WHY didn't the president work with them during the week long process so that this would be resolved right now instead of prolonging the process by refusing to sign it??
People really need that money.
$600? Maybe use it to rent a U-Haul and move out of the liberal Democrat run dives where the freedom and rights are being suppressed. How long will $600 last? Maybe get in tight with the Sudan as I hear they are getting a poop load of American tax dollars.
I don't know how you can criticize the DOL when they were getting hammered like never before.
Get real, if you believe if someone's claim is legit and they don't hear back and they did nothing to get their money. But that's just AZ. Most states, people got their money and alot more then they did when they were actually working.
That's my point, how can the gov't suspend rent and eviction knowing people were getting more money now then when they were working. That is the stupidest thing ever. As stupid as allowing people to get more money not to work, who the hell would want to work and actually get less money then not working?
Just smh, there has always being unemployment, you don't see people during those times cried I can't pay my rent or I can't afford food like they do now.
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Not what I heard with AZ and I have heard this many times since March when initial claims started piling in. As stated in a previous post in this thread and several other threads about being on the DOL for the pandemic. AZ's Department of Economic Security has long been criticized over the pandemic due to high call volumes, no responses for cases and lots of alleged fraud but in reality there is none. Some even got one week's pay and then it stops. Others have seen payouts, then it disappears and there is no appeal possible. ABC15 has put out MANY stories on AZ's DES as has NBC12 and their problems during the pandemic.
I have long said we should have UBI throughout the pandemic since unemployment in states have been flawed and do not include those that have two or three jobs and lost income from their other jobs but still are able to work one job.
I don't know how you can criticize the DOL when they were getting hammered like never before.
Get real, if you believe if someone's claim is legit and they don't hear back and they did nothing to get their money. But that's just AZ. Most states, people got their money and alot more then they did when they were actually working.
That's my point, how can the gov't suspend rent and eviction knowing people were getting more money now then when they were working. That is the stupidest thing ever. As stupid as allowing people to get more money not to work, who the hell would want to work and actually get less money then not working?
Just smh, there has always being unemployment, you don't see people during those times cried I can't pay my rent or I can't afford food like they do now.
I agree with you on the unemployment. People on unemployment usually get less than they made when working - not more - so they would have incentive to get out and find work.
However, this pandemic has brought people to the end of their savings... people that weren't on unemployment...
The stimulus payment (at least the first one) provided a lump sum amount of money that could be used for bills or whatever. I see it as a band aid to help...people and the economy.
I don't believe that people should be encouraged not to get out and look for work.
So if 328 million Americans get $600 (I know, not 328 will, but for argument's sake) that comes to $196 billion. Yet this is a $900 billion package. Where is the rest going?
Well, we're going to get a shiny new publicly-funded commission to regulate thoroughbred horse-racing, so - hoorah? Hey, workers may face eviction, but rich people's hobbies are going to be properly regulated. On our dime, of course, it's not as if they're going to chip in themselves. Great priorities, there. And I'm sure the fact that horse-racing is a big deal in Kentucky and that Mitch just happens to be from Kentucky has absolutely nothing to do with it.
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