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Old 12-19-2020, 04:05 PM
 
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If you can get reinfected and the virus continues to mutate to become more contagious as there is already evidence of, then there is no herd immunity. science won't keep up with mutations that happen this fast
There is no scientific proof that anyone has actually been reinfected. An article in the New York Times by some blowhard claiming otherwise, is not proof.
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Old 12-19-2020, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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From your link:



What exactly is the end game now?

We cannot continue extended lockdowns. This is a virus with a 99.7% survival rate. And the amount of people who are being harmed from the lockdowns is rapidly increasing ...
You should have never approved of the right of the government to issue such edicts in the first place.

Just a pro tip.
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Old 12-19-2020, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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You should have never approved of the right of the government to issue such edicts in the first place.

Just a pro tip.
Plot twist: I never did.
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Old 12-19-2020, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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So perfect isnt it?
Science happens regardless of politics.

If the statists want to use x,y,z to politicize something it's just best to ignore them.
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Old 12-19-2020, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Plot twist: I never did.
You're an anarchist?

Plot twist: you're not.
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Old 12-19-2020, 04:11 PM
 
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You have no right to spread a fatal disease, regardless of how you think or feel about it.
It’s far from a fatal disease with a 98% survival rate and higher if you’re under 65.

You have no right to tell me to wear a mask. If you’re so scared, stay home. The rest of society will live our lives.
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Old 12-19-2020, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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It’s far from a fatal disease with a 98% survival rate and higher if you’re under 65.

You have no right to tell me to wear a mask. If you’re so scared, stay home. The rest of society will live our lives.
It's a property rights issue. Always has been but since neither team believe in rights that has been lost in all of this.

On your property, I do as you say. On my property, you do as I say.

If we don't agree, we must leave.
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Old 12-19-2020, 04:18 PM
 
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It’s far from a fatal disease with a 98% survival rate and higher if you’re under 65.

You have no right to tell me to wear a mask. If you’re so scared, stay home. The rest of society will live our lives.
He won't listen. Him and his ilk will fall in line, no matter how ridiculous and illogical the demands are.
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Old 12-19-2020, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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It’s far from a fatal disease with a 98% survival rate and higher if you’re under 65.

You have no right to tell me to wear a mask. If you’re so scared, stay home. The rest of society will live our lives.
It's just not being afraid of dying from it. I don't want to be sick with it even for just a few days. Some people still don't feel over it after two weeks. What a drag to be sick that long. So I will wear a mask in public when indoors. And you should, too.
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Old 12-19-2020, 04:23 PM
 
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Wrong. Proof? Link? The article doesn't state that, and I have looked at numerous other UK articles that state the new strain does not prevent the vaccine from being effective. It does not cause more severe disease either. It transmits easier and that's it.


"The genetic changes to the virus’ spike proteins would not reduce the effectiveness of a coronavirus vaccine as most produce a range of antibodies that would make it hard for the virus to evade all at once. The new strain was also found to carry the same spike receptor that most vaccines currently in development have targeted."
https://www.ibtimes.com/new-coronavi...accine-3102026

Such is my understanding too. However, the point is: we are rapidly running out of hospital beds to treat COVID 19 patients, much less those suffering heart attacks, strokes, car accidents, etc.



So, while this new UK strain is not 'deadlier', it is not 'less deadlier', and hence if more people become infected, a certain percentage will require hospitalization, and the beds may not be available.



One of my sisters, age 67, developed COVID 19. Her husband took her to the hospital and the diagnosis was confirmed. After a CT scan of the lungs showed no problems, she was sent home to quarantine. Save for a dry cough, severe fatigue and headaches (the latter caused by the steroidal medication), she is recovering nicely, although she has lost memory of several days. Her husband seems to be okay, so far.
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