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Old 01-02-2021, 01:53 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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To a large extent, I agree with you. IRL, I don't experience the anger. Americans are kind, generous, warm, welcoming people. On the other hand, American media and politics encourages and feeds off of the polarization it creates. And Americans not only accept this, but seem to embrace it.

For years, we've heard that the media and the anonymity of the internet allow people to freely express their true feelings and show their true colors. If that's the case, there IS an incredible, exhausting level of anger and incivility in the US. We see this on CD all the time, as just one example. There are posters on this very thread who contribute to the incivility.
Meh, CD, Twitter, and social media by and large tends to amplify the kooks. The kooks have a bigger voice online than they do in real life.

I'm firmly convinced of this. Are there crappy people, of course, but CD is not indicative of real life.

My opinion only, of course.
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Old 01-02-2021, 01:55 PM
 
Location: southern california
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That guy is really annoying, but be careful about misrepresenting or exaggerating the "horrors" of precivilization peoples in a kind of historical whataboutism.

Better to just keep all of these things in their proper historical context, and try to understand the impact of European colonialism on the parts of the continent that hadn't yet been colonized.



This whole "guilt" thing only happens in democracies. Not because democracies are more sensitive to the interests of minorities(most democracies have historically led to genocide). But because democracy can easily exploit victimhood for votes.



Since whites are the majority they must be divided into competing factions. If the country was 100% white, then democracy would be ~50% voting against the other 50%. Thus democracy keeps the white majority perpetually divided and hostile to each other.

On the contrary, blacks being a small minority can vote as a monolith. Even if every single black person voted for the democrats, they could still lose in a landslide. The strategy of the democrats is to play victimhood politics to pick up minority votes, then appeal to just enough whites to win an overall majority.

Moreover, capitalists have no country, no people, no culture, no religion, no race, and no language. The forces of finance and globalization want to break down obstacles to trade and the movement of capital and peoples. Finance is making a lot of money off investments across the developing world, while also getting cheap manufactured goods.



I basically agree, but before we call something a sin we need to understand why it happened. There is a perfectly rational reason for everything. Because everyone imagines they're doing the right thing.

As Hegel said, "Genuine tragedies in the world are not conflicts between right and wrong. They are conflicts between two rights."
That is true the last big one between “2 rights”was with the third Reich
There was no doubt at all in them utter conviction in their rightness
New world order advocates

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Old 01-02-2021, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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I don't see any real hate in my day to day.
I'm one of the nicest people you'll ever meet IRL, but I hate everything.

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We need them gone but no point deporting them until a wall is built as that's the only way to insure they won't come back in.
While I'm not against a wall, the wall wouldn't stop anything, it would only slow it down. And the people who really run this country don't care about immigration except to the extent it causes crime.

If immigration didn't cause crime they would gladly import all of Central America.
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Old 01-02-2021, 02:08 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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While I'm not against a wall, the wall wouldn't stop anything, it would only slow it down. And the people who really run this country don't care about immigration except to the extent it causes crime.

If immigration didn't cause crime they would gladly import all of Central America.
Illegal immigration also causes schools that were once rated 8-10 to drop to 4-6 in a matter of years.

So much for house hunting.
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Old 01-02-2021, 02:11 PM
 
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If that's what you think, normstad, why do you spend your money here? Why do CHOOSE to spend 6 months in a place you consider so evil? What does that say about your so-called principles?

If you're so concerned about First Nations peoples, why do you choose to continue to live on stolen land -- in the US AND in Canada? Seems to me that, at the very least, you'd donate your vacation property here in the US to a disadvantaged Native American. Instead of just shooting off your mouth about their plight.
I have already stated this. I live on treaty land that was obtained by treaty, a treaty that the Supreme Court holds valid as the First Nation understood it, not just what was written. No genocide was involved. I'm sorry that inconvenient truths bother you and so many others.
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Old 01-02-2021, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN -
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I have already stated this. I live on treaty land that was obtained by treaty, a treaty that the Supreme Court holds valid as the First Nation understood it, not just what was written. No genocide was involved. I'm sorry that inconvenient truths bother you and so many others.
You have never told us why you CHOOSE to spend 6 months in, giving your money to, a country you consider so morally bankrupt. What does that say about your principles? I'm sorry if those very legitimate, logical questions are inconvenient for you.
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Old 01-02-2021, 02:23 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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I have already stated this. I live on treaty land that was obtained by treaty, a treaty that the Supreme Court holds valid as the First Nation understood it, not just what was written. No genocide was involved. I'm sorry that inconvenient truths bother you and so many others.
The other poster is right, you post nothing but anti-American drivel, all day and everyday. It comes off sadly and reeks of insecurity. That's not an attack, just a casual observation based on the content of your posts. If I can see that I'm sure lots of other posters do too.

I take a bit of umbrage at the premise of the OP. It sounds about as genuine as asking if you still smack your wife around.
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Old 01-02-2021, 02:53 PM
 
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If that's what you think, normstad, why do you spend your money here? Why do CHOOSE to spend 6 months in a place you consider so evil? What does that say about your so-called principles?

If you're so concerned about First Nations peoples, why do you choose to continue to live on stolen land -- in the US AND in Canada? Seems to me that, at the very least, you'd donate your vacation property here in the US to a disadvantaged Native American. Instead of just shooting off your mouth about their plight.
We have made reparations already. The descendants of the Amerindians are all full fledged U.S. citizens with all the rights bestowed on them just like any other citizen of this country. They also have their tribal lands to do with what they want. They've opened up casinos on those tribal lands and became rich. WTH else are we supposed to do?
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Old 01-02-2021, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN -
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We have made reparations already. The descendants of the Amerindians are all full fledged U.S. citizens with all the rights bestowed on them just like any other citizen of this country. They also have their tribal lands to do with what they want. They've opened up casinos on those tribal lands and became rich. WTH else are we supposed to do?
I agree that we've made reparations.
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Old 01-02-2021, 03:46 PM
 
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I'm one of the nicest people you'll ever meet IRL, but I hate everything.



While I'm not against a wall, the wall wouldn't stop anything, it would only slow it down. And the people who really run this country don't care about immigration except to the extent it causes crime.

If immigration didn't cause crime they would gladly import all of Central America.
Buy ladder stock.

And with all the hoopla about seismic sensors they still dig elaborate tunnels. Anybody wanting in can get in can. As long as it was Mexicans nobody cared.

Corporate America and our government destabilized what little government there was in Central America. When they started coming in is when the stop illegals got in full swing.

Hope Iran Contra, our morning juice and Chiquita bananas are worth the cost to the taxpayer.
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