Lockdown Fatigue is a Thing Now, Americans are Fed Up (middle east, leader)

[ram2]

Originally Posted by normstad

And many have better success in reopening their economies. See New Zealand, Australia, Vietnam.

You conveniently left out all the European countries that were supposedly managing the virus better than the US 6 months ago.

[Mikala43]

Originally Posted by Hrw-500

What about the Spanish flu? It killed 650 000 people back when the US population was around 105 million at that era.

Vlogger timcast posted a vlog about people snapping and refusing to comply with lockdowns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEJbP8mPcqw

Meanwhile in the UK, one journalist named Julia Hartley-Brewer is under the target of an angry mob for saying "...it shouldn’t justify the shutdown of the economy and the house arrest of the entire country."
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/u...sick-die-covid

Btw, will some folks wants to ban vitamin D after they read that article from the Boston Globe who mentionned then vitamin D will lower the risk of having covid if they get vitamin D? https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/09...ersity-doctor/

Over 2 years. We are like 9 months in. Plus, you would think we would know more medically by now.

[Mikala43]

Originally Posted by ram2

You conveniently left out all the European countries that were supposedly managing the virus better than the US 6 months ago.

There numbers are still much better than ours per capita overall.

[mkpunk]

Originally Posted by jaminhealth

And if it goes on and on, more families on the streets...no jobs, no money for rents, for food for anything...this is America 2020, not 80 yrs ago. The rich they are just fine as always...

And I choose NOT to wear a mask, my choice, I'm not out there coughing and sneezing on the herds of people...and others should not cough and sneeze on others....and distance if that makes you feel comfortable...

Not really. Your choice becomes my problem. It isn't just coughing and sneezing on people but normal talking and yelling too. When I wear a mask but not you, you aren't protecting everyone else as much as you aren't protecting yourself. I don't know why people don't understand that their rights end where another begins with the masks.

[jaminhealth]

Originally Posted by mkpunk

Not really. Your choice becomes my problem. It isn't just coughing and sneezing on people but normal talking and yelling too. When I wear a mask but not you, you aren't protecting everyone else as much as you aren't protecting yourself. I don't know why people don't understand that their rights end where another begins with the masks.

I don't BUY all what you have said and what "they" keep telling us about this NEW VIRUS, but yet coronavirus is around for years.....do you quarentine when you get a good old cornavirus cold and do you wear a mask when you get a cold.

Personal responsibility is what we NEED to do to keep strong and healthy. I don't count on a mask....probably in a surgical situation if I were a doc or nurse, I'd wear a mask, that is long long long time policy....

And I have never talked and yelled into anyone's face...You???

It's all being made up on "what to do" since day 1 of all this.

[ram2]

Originally Posted by Mikala43

There numbers are still much better than ours per capita overall.

No, they are not.

[ohio_peasant]

Originally Posted by Riley.

I agree about hardship. We are some of the most fortunate people on earth...all things considered....and of course, this pandemic, lock downs, business closures, etc, have really affected us on many levels, but many people, especially the younger generation, don't know how to handle hardship. They don't know how to plan for unexpected emergencies. They don't save money. They don't know how to hunker in.
So many people don't seem to understand the concept of dealing with reality.
Life is not pretty and happy all the time.

Why are we so eager to demonize the young? OK, they never had to experience ration-cards, universal conscription, polio, surgery without anesthesia, mass starvation, bubonic plague, barbarian invasions, trampling by wooly mammoths,… Does that make them somehow unworthy? Does it mean that until they experience a harsh and withering lesson of their own, they’re somehow less than fully human?

“Dealing with reality” depends on which aspect of “reality” we emphasize. Here’s a reality: what if the young go to school, go to restaurants, and go to parties. Some of them die, but only a few. However, a million or two older people die, and that’s just in America. What if I proposed THIS scenario as the reality, and asked everyone else to deal with it?

[MissTerri]

Originally Posted by mike1003

SOME evidence from small group of sourses

A credible group sharing credible evidence of a protocol that works based on ample scientific evidence. I don’t know why people don’t want to know about this but ok.

[Mikala43]

Originally Posted by ram2

No, they are not.

What EU countries are doing worse than us?

UK and Spain have a few more deaths per capita, but that's about it.

[MissTerri]

Originally Posted by Hrw-500

What about the Spanish flu? It killed 650 000 people back when the US population was around 105 million at that era.

Vlogger timcast posted a vlog about people snapping and refusing to comply with lockdowns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEJbP8mPcqw

Meanwhile in the UK, one journalist named Julia Hartley-Brewer is under the target of an angry mob for saying "...it shouldn’t justify the shutdown of the economy and the house arrest of the entire country."
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/u...sick-die-covid

Btw, will some folks wants to ban vitamin D after they read that article from the Boston Globe who mentionned then vitamin D will lower the risk of having covid if they get vitamin D? https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/09...ersity-doctor/

There seems to be a lot of evidence supporting vitamin D and also vitamin C, Zinc, Quercetin and even melatonin. https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-c...27-ENGLISH.pdf