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View Poll Results: Would you still vote for Trump?
Yes, I fully support Trump 62 52.54%
Yes, but only because I didn't like Biden 19 16.10%
No, I would vote Biden instead 12 10.17%
No, I would vote third party instead 7 5.93%
No, I just would not vote. 18 15.25%
Voters: 118. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-09-2021, 05:37 PM
 
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Well, the 42 percent base of MAGA deplorables is holding firm. All the more reason he must be impeached so he can never run again.
Saying this as a very reluctant Trump voter. IF the RNC lets him run again I will just votes down ballot RED
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Old 01-09-2021, 06:51 PM
 
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The idiot is anyone believing the WH has any control over the price of gas.
you seriously don't think the permission on where and how to drill for oil is not influenced by the occupant of the White house?
https://www.latimes.com/politics/sto...-in-the-courts
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Old 01-09-2021, 06:53 PM
 
Location: USA
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It wasn't Antifa members! It was tRump supporters. Stop with the No True Scotsman nonsense

And stop calling Biden a pedophile. It's not true, so you're committing libel
Even Kamala Harris believes the woman he raped, so why not
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Old 01-09-2021, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Even Kamala Harris believes the woman he raped, so why not
I guess innocent until proven guilty only applies to conservatives.....
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Old 01-09-2021, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Trump had nothing to do with the violence. And if you bother looking, there are videos of trump supporters actually protecting the police from antifa jan 6th, and trump supporters pleading with antifa to not break windows.
On antifa pages, there were antifa peoole calling for their " comrades" to dress like trump supporters and disrupt rally, so trump supporters would be blamed.
There have been hundreds of trump rallies, and no violence initiated except by antifa/libs. We even pick up our trash afterwards.
This was no different. It wasnt trump supporters fighting police, nor was it a trump supporter that put a pipe bomb in RNC.
I guarantee you, that it was not a trump supporter that killed the cop. That is most likely antifa. We support cops.
Wasn't ANTIFA, get a new talking point. As I've said before, Mike Broomhead of KTAR is a known conservative Republican and active in the conservative movement. Broomhead knew a number of the people in the Capitol building. I highly doubt he hangs out with ANTIFA members because they would disagree on their political views. Before you mention about the guy that looked like an indy wrestling reject, Jake Angeli is a "QAnon Shaman" that was seen holding a QAnon sign at a Phoenix BLM rally, not a member of ANTIFA or BLM at all.

There might be Trump supporters that do support the police, but these Trump supporters and Proud Boys that were there, did not.
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Old 01-09-2021, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Even Kamala Harris believes the woman he raped, so why not
Then Trump is a rapist too. Can't have it both ways now... I'll agree that Trump isn't a rapist and let go of his laundry list of allegations, when you stop calling Biden one for his single allegation.
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Old 01-09-2021, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Gods country
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Vote for Trump or go back to the sell outs that have been selling us out since Reagan? I’ll vote for Trump a third time.
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Old 01-09-2021, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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Considering the alternatives? Yeah I'd probably still vote for the guy. Joe Biden is now going all-in 1984-world and that's scary as hell to me.

A better question would be whether Trump is responsible for what happened. IMHO, only a little. Trump is very OCD in his behavior. He hyperfocuses on things and he was hyperfocused on the election cheating. Yes there absolutely was cheating, but as far as we can tell it wasn't sufficient to change the outcome. It won't surprise me one bit if we find out 10 years from now the same thing we found out about the 1960 election: The Democrats cheated and stole the election. We need to better secure our electoral processes. But since you can't prove nor disprove that the election was stolen right now, what can you do?

Trump continued to hyperfocus and obsess over the cheating by the Left. He failed to accurately read the room. He apparently figured they'd march over to the capital building, scream at the sky to let everyone know their frustrations and then everyone would just go home. Frankly, neither Trump nor anyone else had any clue what would actually happen. Trump events are routinely slandered as orgies of violent rhetoric, but everyone knows better. Rampaging through the streets violently destroying, assaulting and murdering -- that's the Far Left's game as we saw all through 2020. Trump events and Trump supporters just don't do that kind of crap. That's probably why the CPD didn't have more cops on the scene. It's probably why they were just let into the building. It's probably absolutely nobody was ready for what happened. And many in the group seemed to be completely surprised to actually be inside the building, with no idea what they wanted to do next. One guy smoked weed. Some took selfies. Clearly they didn't have a plan and clearly they were not well organized.

No, Trump wasn't demanding immediate overthrow of the government of the United States. No he didn't imply that he wanted that either. And clearly the mob had no plan nor clue what to do next after then got inside. Not much of a coup d'état IMHO. What Trump did wrong was that he failed to project calm and make it 100% clear that they were not there to do anything violent or crazy.
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Old 01-09-2021, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Perth, Western Australia
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As Trump said he could shoot someone on Fifth Ave and not lose votes. If his supporters were concerned with his behaviour they would have withdrawn their support a long time ago.
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Old 01-09-2021, 09:09 PM
 
Location: 89434
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I'll take 1 million illegals over 1 single Trump domestic terrorist every time.

No illegal immigrant has attacked Capitol Hill.
Yet you call those who looted stores and burned down buildings during BLM rallies "peaceful protesters"
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