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View Poll Results: Would you still vote for Trump?
Yes, I fully support Trump 62 52.54%
Yes, but only because I didn't like Biden 19 16.10%
No, I would vote Biden instead 12 10.17%
No, I would vote third party instead 7 5.93%
No, I just would not vote. 18 15.25%
Voters: 118. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-09-2021, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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As Trump said he could shoot someone on Fifth Ave and not lose votes. If his supporters were concerned with his behaviour they would have withdrawn their support a long time ago.
The trouble is, we just traded out the guy who said a lot of things for a guy who actually does them.

Trump said, "grab em by the *****." Joe Biden actually grabbed Tara Reade by the *****. I'd rather stick with the guy who is just talk.
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Old 01-09-2021, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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The trouble is, we just traded out the guy who said a lot of things for a guy who actually does them.

Trump said, "grab em by the *****." Joe Biden actually grabbed Tara Reade by the *****. I'd rather stick with the guy who is just talk.
Did he though? There is Reade's allegation, and that's it. You only believe her because Biden is a Democrat. If it were tRump she accused, you'd say she's lying. Admit it.....
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Old 01-09-2021, 09:52 PM
 
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Did he though? There is Reade's allegation, and that's it. You only believe her because Biden is a Democrat. If it were tRump she accused, you'd say she's lying. Admit it.....
Did you only believe her(Christine Blasey Ford)because Kavanaugh was a Republican? What's your point?
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Old 01-09-2021, 10:01 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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Did he though? There is Reade's allegation, and that's it. You only believe her because Biden is a Democrat. If it were tRump she accused, you'd say she's lying. Admit it.....
There's not enough evidence to convict Biden in court because Reade didn't do anything immediately. From a legal perspective, it's a lot like Christine Blassey-Ford accusing Kavanaugh. It happened too long ago to do much about it. But unlike Blassey-Ford, friends and family members were able to corroborate Reade's story. She actually did talk to a bunch of people about it back in the day. CNN even disappeared the Larry King episode where Reade's mother apparently called in with a question about it. So yes I believe that Biden reached out and grabbed Tara Reade.

I also believe 100% that Trump banged all kinds of women and has cheated on every wife he's ever had. I'd almost be surprised if he didn't screw around on Melania while serving as President. Not much would surprise me about Trump when it comes to that sort of thing. I have very little respect for the man.

I do generally assume the worst of politicians. It works quite well. I'm right more than I'm wrong.
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Old 01-09-2021, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Did you only believe her(Christine Blasey Ford)because Kavanaugh was a Republican? What's your point?
I don't know what I believe about the Ford allegations against Kavanaugh. I feel she was assaulted by someone, but possibly not Kavanaugh?
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Old 01-09-2021, 10:08 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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I'll take 1 million illegals over 1 single Trump domestic terrorist every time.

No illegal immigrant has attacked Capitol Hill.
Right, they just break our laws (by crossing the border) and in many cases, commit crimes up to and including murder. So much "better" than breaking into the Capitol.
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Old 01-09-2021, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Sandusky, Ohio
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some of us just voted for trump because your party is the party of pure scum: Ed buck, harvey weinstein and louis farrakhan are great examples of what you party tolerates. Then there's biden who even kamala harris believes the women that accused biden of rape and his racist past. Trump was the higher ground
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Old 01-09-2021, 10:28 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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I will still vote for the Republican (actually, the more conservative candidate which is more likely to be GOP) whether its Trump or not. This is what many race obsessed liberals don't get, especially as I'm a person of color and the son of LEGAL immigrants who supports Trump, and whose family supports him, and who always votes a straight Republican ticket.

Do I wish Trump was classier sometimes? Yes, but I don't think he's a racist, and I believe he and other Republicans are at least loyal to our country and put American interests first. This is NOT true for the left who signed the unfair trade agreements designed to redistribute American wealth and jobs abroad and who put illegal aliens before Americans. Above all, the radical liberal agenda is dangerous for our country. I personally am a victim of Obamacare which I oppose. I DO NOT want socialized medicine or government run health care.

I also think things like the ridiculous $15 minimum wage, the idea of free college, more and more ridiculous regulations on businesses and industry, etc will destroy us economically and bankrupt our country. A $15 minimum wage makes no sense outside of overpriced liberal bastions like New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco and Seattle and will ruin small family owned businesses across the country, especially in smaller towns and rural areas. I live in the HEART of Trump country, nearly all of my friends are Trump supporters, yes most of them are white, and none of them see this as a racial issue or talk about race much. Its about preserving our country, opposing socialism, protecting our economy and the livelihood of our state which is dependent on oil and gas which Biden is against.

We had the strongest economy before the virus thanks to Trump, after Obama had totally destroyed the economy with Obamacare, unfair trade agreements like the TPP and the Paris Accord, etc and government overregulation of industries like coal. Biden has already openly opposed fracking. He disputes exactly how much he opposes it, but he's certainly not pro-coal or pro-fracking.

Look how crazy California is. After 2050 Newsome has ordered a ban on sale of all gasoline vehicles. California has the most COVID restrictions, destroying businesses and violating religious freedoms, yet California is doing far worse than any place else in the nation in their caseload and their overrun hospitals. I'm from an area where you can walk into any store unmasked and they're unlikely to say anything, we have bars that stay open until 2 AM fully packed even though they "technically" shouldn't, I attend church every Sunday and nobody is masked, and this area has far fewer cases than California.
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Old 01-09-2021, 11:09 PM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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When gas is ten dollars a gal. everyone is going to wish they voted for Trump !!! ...
Only those who are so pitiful that they can be bought with cheap gas prices.
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Old 01-09-2021, 11:16 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Yuuup. I used to vote for a mix of Republicans and third-party candidates. Last election I voted straight-ticket Republican for the first time, which I unfortunately will be doing for the foreseeable future. The modern Democrat party is nothing that I want any part of.
Funny but that's the exact same way I feel about the Republican party. January 6th just sealed the deal on that for me. I view the ones who supported Trump's attempts to overturn a fair and legal election as traitors to our nation.
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