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Old 01-12-2021, 04:08 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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I really think the failure of passing the $2k stimulus plan helped sink his re-election.

But he could have catered to the Bernie Sanders crowd, who reluctantly voted for Biden, by slashing or eliminating Student debt (providing a big boost to the economy) which he could have done without the consent of Congress or the Senate. Cancelling of student debt, along with free college, is big on the agenda of the Sanders followers. How many votes would that have translated to? 5 million?

Before the Bernie crowd storms the Capital, they're going to wait and see what gifts Biden is going to give them in return for their votes. I hear the $10k figure of slashing student debt, with restrictions. I don't think this is going to sail with the Bernie crowd, which are going to be even powerful in the next election as they're not going away anytime soon.

So what do you think? Canceling/Slashing Student Debt would have helped save him?

And please, let's leave conspiracy theories and voter fraud out of this thread!
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Old 01-12-2021, 04:43 AM
 
Location: Danville, VA
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By taking Covid seriously from the very beginning and not f'ing up the response. That was all he had to do to get a second term and he blew it.
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Old 01-12-2021, 04:44 AM
 
Location: West Coast U.S.A.
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Teaching his followers to scorn mask wearing meant that he lost more voters to the pandemic than Biden did. Trump shot himself in the foot with that one.
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Old 01-12-2021, 05:26 AM
 
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Maybe if he stopped telling disgusting lies every time he opened his mouth. Narcissist. Megalomaniac. Psycho.
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Old 01-12-2021, 05:38 AM
 
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I really think the failure of passing the $2k stimulus plan helped sink his re-election.

But he could have catered to the Bernie Sanders crowd, who reluctantly voted for Biden, by slashing or eliminating Student debt (providing a big boost to the economy) which he could have done without the consent of Congress or the Senate. Cancelling of student debt, along with free college, is big on the agenda of the Sanders followers. How many votes would that have translated to? 5 million?

Before the Bernie crowd storms the Capital, they're going to wait and see what gifts Biden is going to give them in return for their votes. I hear the $10k figure of slashing student debt, with restrictions. I don't think this is going to sail with the Bernie crowd, which are going to be even powerful in the next election as they're not going away anytime soon.

So what do you think? Canceling/Slashing Student Debt would have helped save him?

And please, let's leave conspiracy theories and voter fraud out of this thread!
Okay. Go on with your Bernie Sanders thread but cancelling student debt and free college is not and never has been on the table.
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Old 01-12-2021, 05:46 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Nobody in the "Bernie Sanders crowd" would vote for Trump. If they didn't vote Biden, they would not vote at all.

Trump lost the election because he started day one with less than the majority of the popular vote. He never did anything to gain more support from moderates to win reelection. Losing the house midterms should have been the wakeup call he needed but he doubled down on his base.

He took a chance on his base and lost. It is what it is.
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Old 01-12-2021, 05:49 AM
 
Location: Brackenwood
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By having a filter on his mouth and Twitter fingers instead of blurting out every single internal dialog running through his head. That and a more focused approach dealing with a hostile opposition is really all it would have taken.
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Old 01-12-2021, 06:48 AM
 
Location: Richmond, VA
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Teaching his followers to scorn mask wearing meant that he lost more voters to the pandemic than Biden did. Trump shot himself in the foot with that one.
A simple branding exercise of selling masks with 'Trump 2020' on it and encouraging his followers to wear them would have been the simplest solution imaginable. He would have won convincingly if he had done just that, and thus slowed down the spread of COVID, seriously. Plus, his shell companies would have made money. Win win.
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Old 01-12-2021, 06:52 AM
 
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In early 2020, I was resigned to the fact that Trump would probably be reelected. Remember, "it's the economy, stupid", and the economy was doing well. The democrats failed impeachment effort had probably helped Trump more than hurt him.

Then God sent Covid-19. (just kidding, but if I was religious i might claim that God sent the pandemic to punish Trump, or to save us from Trump). His downplaying of the virus, while the death toll grew and grew, is probably what hurt him the most. This led to Biden's lead in early polls. Trump, as usual, reacted with denial, refusing to believe he was actually losing.
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Old 01-12-2021, 07:18 AM
 
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Not that hard... he only needed like 44k more votes across AZ / GA / WI
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