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Old 01-16-2021, 08:26 AM
Status: "I don't understand. But I don't care, so it works out." (set 10 days ago)
 
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Purging political dissidents begins...
If by that, you mean removing from office those who would seek to overthrow a fair election, yes.

Seems 4 years ago everyone was happy with the concept of draining the swamp. Not quite so much now, being as they're the swamp.

 
Old 01-16-2021, 08:33 AM
 
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If by that, you mean removing from office those who would seek to overthrow a fair election, yes.

Seems 4 years ago everyone was happy with the concept of draining the swamp. Not quite so much now, being as they're the swamp.
Seek to overthrow a fair election? You mean like the numerous Democrat members of Congress who have formally objected to certifying presidential election results the last 3 times Republicans won?

In any case, yes this would be a case of purging political dissidents. Nothing Senators Hawley and Cruz did was illegal. Thus, this would be punishing them for constitutionally protected ideas, statements and actions simply because some find them offensive.
 
Old 01-16-2021, 08:37 AM
 
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Ted Cruz has my support . All he wanted was a constitutional investigation in the election to calm everyone down . Congress refused so the events that happened took place . The left did the same thing last year . He is a master at law and was at the top of his law class at Harvard . Far more intelligent than anyone the left can muster up .
That’s why he needs to go. He actually knows this was a sham and did it all to score political points with the lowest element of the party. He is an opportunist of the worst sort.
 
Old 01-16-2021, 08:38 AM
 
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Manchin realizes that he is in a very advantageous position as a centrist with the 50/50 Senate split and the GOP in a self destruction for the time being.

So, he is choosing to speak in opposition to the Squad, to the Republicans as well, as well as Biden at times, we will see, but sometimes taking an unpopular or peculiar position just to make his voice be heard.

He is against the $1400 or $2k stimulus checks for some reason, even though Biden and even Trump wanted more than just the $600 checks.
 
Old 01-16-2021, 08:38 AM
 
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Manchin is absolutely correct. Josh Hawley’s most generous donor David Humphreys - who contributed $4.4 million of the $9.2 million Hawley raised for his 2016 campaign - labeled him a “political opportunist” who used “irresponsible, inflammatory, and dangerous tactics” to incite the rioting that took over the U.S. Capitol Building.

Ted Cruz is just a slimier, equally disingenuous version of the same. Both politically opportunistic pondscum.
 
Old 01-16-2021, 08:44 AM
 
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To calm everyone down?

The investigations were done. Even Republican governors declared them fair and clean.

Cruz never wanted to calm anyone down in his whole life, except maybe Trump who was calling his wife ugly.
Governors certified elections that had clear fraud. The election was sham filled with phony ballots . Theres a reason why China Joe is nominating the governor of Michigan for the head of the DNC.

Gotta repay that favor, ya know....
 
Old 01-16-2021, 08:54 AM
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Governors certified elections that had clear fraud. The election was sham filled with phony ballots . Theres a reason why China Joe is nominating the governor of Michigan for the head of the DNC.

Gotta repay that favor, ya know....
Here's the thing.

If you take a position, and believe it, and then you notice that more than half the country believes otherwise. And fairly quickly people who held your belief originally begin to fall off, and admit they're wrong. THEN, the perpetrators of the fraud start to be sued for enormous amounts of money, for libel, and even media outlets on your side begin to realize they were perpetrating the fraud themselves, and backed away. And bar association consider disbarring the leaders of the fraud.

Meanwhile, industry leaders in tech and security were saying all along that there was absolutely NOTHING fraudulent about this election, and those saying it were hired and appointed by your side.

At what point do you begin to entertain the idea that you're wrong? Ever?

Critical thinking skills are what need to be employed here, to get our country back on track from this purposeful attempt to steal the election by Trump and his followers.
 
Old 01-16-2021, 09:29 AM
 
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Here's the thing.

If you take a position, and believe it, and then you notice that more than half the country believes otherwise. And fairly quickly people who held your belief originally begin to fall off, and admit they're wrong. THEN, the perpetrators of the fraud start to be sued for enormous amounts of money, for libel, and even media outlets on your side begin to realize they were perpetrating the fraud themselves, and backed away. And bar association consider disbarring the leaders of the fraud.

Meanwhile, industry leaders in tech and security were saying all along that there was absolutely NOTHING fraudulent about this election, and those saying it were hired and appointed by your side.

At what point do you begin to entertain the idea that you're wrong? Ever?

Critical thinking skills are what need to be employed here, to get our country back on track from this purposeful attempt to steal the election by Trump and his followers.
At what point do you begin to entertain the idea that you're wrong? Ever?

I'll answer for him. Never Ever.

That's why Cruz and Hawley's suggestion of yet another 10-day audit by an independent committee would have never work. I would be my life on it that no fraud would be found and people like these posters would still Never Ever believe it.

It was a stall tactic and done for showmanship and personal gain. Nothing more.
 
Old 01-16-2021, 09:34 AM
 
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It sounds like this could go one of two ways.

They honestly believed, despite overwhelming evidence and now current billion dollar lawsuits against the perpetrators of this fraud, that the election was stolen. In that case, they're not fit to serve.

OR, they knew the election was sound, and the votes were correctly counted, but they wanted to over throw the results of a fair election. In that case, they're not fit to serve.
There are other explanations. They wanted to gain political capital for a 2024 run by pandering to the fact free thinking of Trump voters.
 
Old 01-16-2021, 09:36 AM
 
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Really Senator...with all due respect how can you live with yourself certifying a fraud!





https://www.theblaze.com/news/ready-...y-and-ted-cruz
And here I thought Manchin might actually hold the line against the 50 radicals that will sign off on statehood for PR, DC, and court packing.


All bets are really off I guess. But I should have known that since all democrats, at their heart, are pathological liars.
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