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Old 01-16-2021, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Originally Posted by James Bond 007 View Post
Here's a nice comparison of the US, Canada's and Australia's immigration policies:
https://www.cato.org/blog/more-famil...-united-states
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The United States allows in about a million lawful permanent residents a year, the largest number of any country, but that is a small percentage of the almost 325 million people who already live in the United States – about 0.3 percent annually. By comparison, Australia Canada each allow in about 250,000 immigrants a year but they are much smaller countries with about 23 million and 35 million residents, respectively. Thus, as a percentage of their populations, the annual inflow of immigrants into Canada and Australia is significantly larger than in the United States. The annual number of immigrants to Australia is equal to 1.1 percent of the Australian population while the annual number to Canada is equal to about 0.7 percent of the Canadian population, which makes them 3.5 and 2.4 times as open to immigration as the United States, respectively (Figure 1). If the United States were to copy Australia or Canada’s merit-based immigration policies, our government would admit about 2.3 million to 3.5 million immigrants annually.
IOW, their immigration policies result in MORE immigrants, proportionately, than the US.

 
Old 01-16-2021, 07:24 PM
 
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If you are a full blooded American who's been here all your life and you can't compete with someone who came to this country with nothing and can't even speak the language, then it's about time you reevaluate your life choices. Just saying LOL.
 
Old 01-16-2021, 07:25 PM
 
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I took a class on economics in college. And I’ll be frank my professor was very liberal, but one common misconsception is saving buissnesses money boosts the economy but that isn’t true. The more money the government injects into the economy the more people can thrive, and people are the economy. It’s not just about unemployment, it’s also about living standards which the U.S is falling behind in. And a 15$ minimum wage could help with that.
Wow. This is sad.

First of all, just boosting a min wage doesn't help living standards because the guy who was making $15 before with some skill now wants $20. Why would he sell his skill for $15 anymore when an unskilled worker makes $15? Secondly, just increasing min wage will cause inflation, which will lower your purchasing power and dollars will be worth less.
 
Old 01-16-2021, 07:27 PM
 
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One of Biden's ideas is to fully embrace solar and wind to replace oil. If we triple or quadruple what's already occurring across states like Kansas, then you'll need thousands of jobs for people building stuff. Building solar panels and associated accessories; building the huge wind turbines and blades and all the trappings that go with them. Plus installation of all of that stuff.

Building and installing such stuff - in America - is a great way to get former car assembly line workers, widget makers, and coal miners into a growing area of the economy. These jobs will pay more than $15 an hour, and they don't require retraining into the information-economy computer stuff that so many of these workers reject.

If we can also get some actual, major infrastructure going (how about a nationwide I-66 designed from the ground up for autonomous vehicles?), then that's another area for displaced coal miners and assembly line workers to easily get back to work.

I'm much more optimistic about the next four years than under the previous four, where we were promising displaced workers the moon and never coming through. And also bankrupting farmers left and right.
Good luck with that.
 
Old 01-16-2021, 07:27 PM
 
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I already answered that question.


Your argument is basically an argument against more rapid population growth.
Rapid population growth of illegals who cost tax dollars? Who in their right mind is ok with that?

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More people coming in = more people taking jobs = more natives with fewer jobs.
Those are facts.

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What you don't seem to realize is that the people coming into the country taking jobs will have money to spend on things, thus creating other jobs elsewhere in the economy.
How do illegals create jobs that don't cost tax payer dollars?

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If it were the mere fact of some sort of strain of adding more people looking for jobs, then every time a teenager turns 18 or graduates from college at the age of 22 and sets out into the workforce, would have the same effect as somebody immigrating to the US and entering the workforce.

I don't hear you complain about 18 or 22-year-olds being added to the workforce, but for some reason you have a problem with immigrants being added to the workforce.

Ultimately both are just different kinds of population and workforce growth.
No. An influx of illegals taking the part-time jobs to feed their family/rent a place to live, that a 16-22 year old would typical be working, are not the same types of "population and workforce" growth.
 
Old 01-16-2021, 07:28 PM
 
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Without immigrants, our farms would fail.
Other industries that employ immigrant workers would also fail.
Americans aren't tripping over themselves to do those jobs.
Do you know that under Trump, we had the lowest poverty rate in decades? Wages pre covid were finally starting to increase after decades of being flatlined?
 
Old 01-16-2021, 07:29 PM
 
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Without immigrants, our farms would fail.
Other industries that employ immigrant workers would also fail.
Americans aren't tripping over themselves to do those jobs.
Do you know that under Trump, we had the lowest poverty rate in decades? Wages pre covid were finally starting to increase after decades of being flatlined?

The poverty rate in this country was higher when Obama left office than when he went in. THAT's quite impressive given the state of the economy when he came into office. Had more people on food stamps, too.
 
Old 01-16-2021, 07:30 PM
 
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He didn't say that he said his ideas were stupid.
Either way. People can disagree on things without name calling. If someone disagrees with another lets all remember that it helps no one to just scream and shout like a kid at recess. I hope this forum doesn't go down the drain like that.
 
Old 01-16-2021, 07:31 PM
 
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Originally Posted by James Bond 007 View Post
Here's a nice comparison of the US, Canada's and Australia's immigration policies:
https://www.cato.org/blog/more-famil...-united-states

IOW, their immigration policies result in MORE immigrants, proportionately, than the US.
How many illegals do those 2 countries let in?

What are their standards for legal immigration?

What do they do when their work-visa/student immigrants don't leave when their visas expire?
 
Old 01-16-2021, 07:32 PM
 
Location: southern california
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Obama deported more illegals than any previous president, but nobody noticed. Biden will too. All this talk about helping out illegal immigrants is just talk, nothing more.
Not so he marked them deported but they did not leave or did and came right back the gate was open
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