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Old 01-21-2021, 02:33 PM
 
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The entire premise of the Paris Climate agreement is to limit global warming.

If you don't agree that global warming is a problem, then you have no basis arguing whether it is an effective agreement or not: you're arguing against something that is fundamental to even discussing the document. You're wasting your time, it's like trying to explain to an NRA convention that gun rights should have limits, or to a flat earther that the world is really round, or to MAGAs at a Trump rally in DC that violently assaulting the capitol is not the most effective way to support democracy.

You're entitled to your opinion. My opinion, and apparently President Biden's, based on the vast preponderance of scientific authorities, is that global warming is probably a pretty bad deal overall.
You are more than welcome to counter the points I raised.

The so-called scientific authority has been wrong far more time than being right.
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Old 01-21-2021, 02:35 PM
 
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So, now you're getting your conspiracy theories from Lex Luthor's plans in Superman?
Didn’t Obama buy some vineyard off some coast?
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Old 01-21-2021, 02:52 PM
 
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Especially if we had started with the Trump rallies (sponsored by Golden Corral! "When you want to eat your feelings over the bad choices you've made in life, put your MAGA hat on and come on down to Golden Corral!")...
Does this have anything to do with the global warming?
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Old 01-21-2021, 02:56 PM
 
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In a related story, have you seen these amazing craters from methane generated from rotting, melting permafrost? The ground is literally pooting and leaving huge holes from the force.

http://https://www.bbc.com/future/ar...losive-craters
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Old 01-21-2021, 03:01 PM
 
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Here's a good article from Reuters that explains the positives.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-c...-idUSKBN1Y62HI
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Old 01-21-2021, 03:11 PM
 
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You are more than welcome to counter the points I raised.

The so-called scientific authority has been wrong far more time than being right.
It's telling that the Pentagon ignored the previous White House on this.

link

This is similar to the argument with Covid. There are entrenched interests who want to milk every last penny out of old technology that they're heavily invested in, and they resist attempts to transition to new technology because it threatens their franchise. That's how a lot of companies went under because they saw new trends and technology but rejected them because they ate into existing business lines. There will be industries who'll generate a lot of revenue and employ a lot of people. This has been coming for a long time, and those sources of power are now competitive with technology reducing their costs in the long run.

I think the unstated goal is to create some independence from the Middle East and weaken competitors, such as Russia and Iran, who are reliant on fossil fuels for income.
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Old 01-21-2021, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Richmond, VA
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You are more than welcome to counter the points I raised.

The so-called scientific authority has been wrong far more time than being right.
I don’t think I need to. The scientific community has credibility to me. You’re just a random message board poster, fully entitled to your opinion. I’m entitled to mine, which is that you would argue the color of the sky if a liberal said it was blue. Enjoy your irrelevance over at least the next two years. Bye Felicia.
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Old 01-21-2021, 03:18 PM
 
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I don’t think I need to. The scientific community has credibility to me. You’re just a random message board poster, fully entitled to your opinion. I’m entitled to mine, which is that you would argue the color of the sky if a liberal said it was blue. Enjoy your irrelevance over at least the next two years. Bye Felicia.
You are very condescending!

My personal motto is always seek the truth. So I don’t care if a leftist or Stalin says the sky is blue. It is still blue.

The thing is the hypothesis of global warming has accumulated so much politics that it is impossible to find the truth.
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Old 01-21-2021, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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You are very condescending!

My personal motto is always seek the truth. So I don’t care if a leftist or Stalin says the sky is blue. It is still blue.

The thing is the hypothesis of global warming has accumulated so much politics that it is impossible to find the truth.
yes it has, because much like Covid, the right went out of their way to politicize it because they don't want to play. (it hurts their bank accounts)
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Old 01-21-2021, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Where the money comes from and where it goes.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40138062
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