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The oil is a commodity. It goes to who ever buys it. Maybe China, maybe Australia, who cares!
If Canada was going to build a pipe line going east that would be infinitely more expensive, not to mention the added THOUSANDS of nautical miles of added transportation, to the cost.
I think the operative word here is 'temporary'. How long is temporary in this case? The pipeline has been in production for at least a decade. Is temporary another five years? Or ten years? Everything is always relative to the situation.
If memory serves, President Obama signed a stimulus package, in 2009, that was supposed to provide "shovel-ready" jobs to fix roads and bridges. I don't recall the money ever going to what the Democratic Party said it would, except to the Unions who then, in turn, donated it back to the Democratic Party. It was a giant Ponzi-scheme.
Sounds just like the high speed rail in california that is years behind schedule and billions over budget despite very little actually being done. Where is all that money?
It's not a problem, it's called cooperative partnership. Have you heard of the USMCA? This is how the world works not to mention.....Canada is our BEST neighbor and we should treat them as such.
Then let Canada export their oil directly to the Asian markets!
Can't do it because we cannot get our oil to any port on Canada's East or West coast. Our oil patch is landlocked. There is no way to transport our products because pipelines will have to pass through other provinces and they deny us pipeline access to ports. We are using rail car. Pretty well forced to.
Do we really need to risk our land for Canada to ship their crude oil down to the gulf to export to China?
You only need to do it if America wants to prosper, to continue to make money and continue being the richest country in the world.
My god almighty! I can't believe how much cockamamie ignorance has been displayed in this entire thread.
American oil producing companies are the ones who buy the cheap crude oil that Canada sends to the Gulf refineries as well as other American refineries in other states. The American companies buy cheap crude oil shipped to them in tankers from other countries too. America has 20 times more refineries than Canada does. America has more refineries than any other country in the world. It always has.
The American companies buy it, refine it and then sell the refined products (marketed as an American oil product) to nearly 200 other countries at a HUGE profit to America. HUGE PROFIT!!! They even sell some of the refined products back to Canada. Why? Because Canada can't refine oil the way America does.
Canada is America's biggest supplier of oil in the world and America is the one that profits the most from refining and selling it all over the world. Without bulk Canadian oil for America to buy, refine and sell at such huge profit America would be a mediocre 2nd world country just barely scraping by. And all of you would be poor, none of you would be able to live in the American lifestyle that you've all become so accustomed to.
Why do you people not know this? Don't any of you ever bother to do actual research?
PS - edited to add that I personally believe that Canada should stop producing oil altogether and cut off everyone else in the world.
Learning to be a computer programmer as a second career is a lot harder than it sounds.
LOL. yeah, no. Ive seen people try to learn software engineering and just not being able to do it. At all.
Anyways, on to the topic more directly. This was a bad deal for us. The OP gets some serious credit for laying it out pretty plainly. But there are some side facts on this. From what Ive read and can recall, moving oil by pipeline causes less oil spills then moving it via train or semi. However the spills tend to be in more damaging areas, and while there are less of them, they tend to be high volume.
And with all the competing nonsense from all sides it was hard to be 100% sure of anything. Overall I think the "this is really a bad idea" folks are probably correct.
But for those who dont care about that. Care about this. We are now a net exporter of oil. Why in the world would we help a competitor on the world stage in something that places all the external costs and risks on us and our environment? Thats...preposterous.
I think the operative word here is 'temporary'. How long is temporary in this case? The pipeline has been in production for at least a decade. Is temporary another five years? Or ten years? Everything is always relative to the situation.
If memory serves, President Obama signed a stimulus package, in 2009, that was supposed to provide "shovel-ready" jobs to fix roads and bridges. I don't recall the money ever going to what the Democratic Party said it would, except to the Unions who then, in turn, donated it back to the Democratic Party. It was a giant Ponzi-scheme.
But it's not just one pipeline.
There are pipelines all over the country.
When one is completed, you move onto the next.
And all of them need ongoing monitoring and maintenance, creating permanent jobs.
We risk the pollution whether the oil is shipped in rail cars or high pressure pipelines. The kicker is: the crude oil from Canada is shipped through US land for export to China! We take the risk. Are we to be suckers?
OP, I guess that we’d be even bigger suckers if we depend on oil from the Middle East, that we protect with the lives of our sons and daughters in the military... For oil that still makes its way to China.
China is our biggest threat and the new administration isn’t up to the task of dealing with them. And yes, they know that Biden is nothing but a feeble old man who cannot even speak in a semi intelligent manner.
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