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Old 03-10-2021, 08:05 PM
 
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Just a simple question-

How does importing millions of uneducated, illiterate, unemployed people who do not speak English to the US make us a "better country"?

If these individuals are the key to a nation's prosperity, why does Guatemala, Mexico and Nicaragua not have a higher standard of living and greater GDP per capita than the US?

What are the chances of such people gaining employment in an economy that increasingly demands higher levels of technical education and degrees for employment?

Why are walls and fences required to "protect" our Capitol Building, but not the border?

 
Old 03-10-2021, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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From about 1850 to about 1920 we let in millions of uneducated, illiterate and unemployed people into the USA. And we turned out just fine.
 
Old 03-10-2021, 08:10 PM
 
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From about 1850 to about 1920 we let in millions of uneducated, illiterate and unemployed people into the USA. And we turned out just fine.
I tell you what James, let’s let them move in next to you. After all, you’ll be fine.
 
Old 03-10-2021, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Our Country doesn't matter to those in power right now, all they care about maintaining power, & that means flipping Texas from Red to Blue.

All they care about are themselves...feed the greed.

Plus, it helps big biz get more cheap labor, so those kickbacks keep coming in.

Its the top 1% conspiring, and crushing the 99%, and the 99% are losing badly.
 
Old 03-10-2021, 08:14 PM
 
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From about 1850 to about 1920 we let in millions of uneducated, illiterate and unemployed people into the USA. And we turned out just fine.

The US is the 3rd largest country in the world by terms of land area, and only had 23 million people in 1850. There was a lot of land to fill and a huge need for manual labor. Neither of those is true today, and don't even get me started on educational differences between 1850 and today. But then, again, you're well aware of all these things, aren't you?
 
Old 03-10-2021, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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And BTW, the notion that these Latin American immigrants are all illiterate is ridiculous. I'd be willing to bet the immigrants from Mexico and Central America these days have higher literacy rates (and possibly also educational levels) than European immigrants from 1850-1920.

Literacy rate by country
Mexico - 95.40%
Guatemala - 81.50%
Honduras - 87.20%
El Salvador - 88.50%

Even as recently as 1981 the literacy rate in Italy was 96.5%, which is little different from Mexico's current rate.
 
Old 03-10-2021, 08:16 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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From about 1850 to about 1920 we let in millions of uneducated, illiterate and unemployed people into the USA. And we turned out just fine.
The difference is, there were no tax payer funded social services back then. There were no food stamps. If you couldn't afford to eat, you starved. There was no section 8 housing back then. If you couldn't afford a place to live, you lived in the street. There was no welfare, no medicaid, no social security, we weren't spending the equivalent of 10s of thousands of dollars on each student every year to educate kids, there was no in-state tuition, or any other way that the millions of uneducated, illiterate, and unemployed people could sponge off of the current citizen tax-payers.
 
Old 03-10-2021, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Just a simple question-

How does importing millions of uneducated, illiterate, unemployed people who do not speak English to the US make us a "better country"?

If these individuals are the key to a nation's prosperity, why does Guatemala, Mexico and Nicaragua not have a higher standard of living and greater GDP per capita than the US?

What are the chances of such people gaining employment in an economy that increasingly demands higher levels of technical education and degrees for employment?

Why are walls and fences required to "protect" our Capitol Building, but not the border?


Well, since we took away their slaves, rich Democrats need cheap manual labor around the plantation.

Those chrysanthemums aren't going to plant themselves.
 
Old 03-10-2021, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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The US is the 3rd largest country in the world by terms of land area, and only had 23 million people in 1850. There was a lot of land to fill and a huge need for manual labor. Neither of those is true today, and don't even get me started on educational differences between 1850 and today. But then, again, you're well aware of all these things, aren't you?
We still have plenty of land. Contrary to popular belief but the US is still pretty sparsely populated. Of the 100 most populated countries in the world, the US is the 79th most densely populated (source).
 
Old 03-10-2021, 08:20 PM
 
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From about 1850 to about 1920 we let in millions of uneducated, illiterate and unemployed people into the USA. And we turned out just fine.


That was then.

This is now.


It's not even close to the same situation. We don't have enough jobs for Americans.....let alone millions of immigrants.

And immigrants then were much more willing to assimilate into American culture.

Now they're just here for the free Democrat cheese.
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