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The 1 room schoolhouses were in rural areas. The immigrants we're talking about were urban ones, where large and expensive schools (for their time) were built. Public schools in big cities back then looked something like this and this, which was expensive for its time.
Prior to 1913 there WAS no income tax so your griping about "progressive" taxes is meaningless.
Since there was no income tax prior to 1913, AND because schools are typically not funded by income taxes even if they did exist, why would you assume I was talking about income taxes?
That was the whole point I was making, which you seemed to miss. There were no taxes where the government forced one person to pay more than another person. So the poor immigrants were paying their fair share.
Unlike today, where the middle class has to pay for all of these government safety nets for them, which thankfully are limited until they push a baby out on our shores. Then they start cashing in. And if we legalize all of them? The cost will be astronomical.
\if wages are lowered by cheap immigration it will be hard to get Americans to take it and work for low wages.
Again, no American wants to work menial labor. No one wants to work at taco bell or the car wash. They aspire to be much more and shame on us if we don't instill that value in them.
The immigrants during our industrial age was less than 15% of the population. They came here to benefit from the system and opportunities already created. If it wasn't here they won't cross the Atlantic with the whole family. To say they are the major reason the U.S. created the economy doesn't know much about history and economy and are repeating globalist open borders unlimited immigration and endless socialism propaganda.
Illegal immigration and poor immigration has it pros and cons. The cons gets ignored by the media, big business and activists and it you bring it up you get accused of being a racist and a bad person. It's great for the elites and big business not so great for the middle class.
Again, no American wants to work menial labor. No one wants to work at taco bell or the car wash. They aspire to be much more and shame on us if we don't instill that value in them.
speak for yourself. Taco Bell and car war are base entry jobs. Again, if you flood the market with cheap immigration then how does your party demands a $15 an hour min. wage? do you understand that contradicts with their unlimited immigration from poor countries?
speak for yourself. Taco Bell and car war are base entry jobs. Again, if you flood the market with cheap immigration then how do your party demands a $15 an hour min. wage? do you understand that contradicts with their unlimited immigration from poor countries?
I'm against the $15 federal minimum wage. It should be left up to states.
Oh this post will be unpopular. Simply put I believe the greater the variety of genetics we have the more likely that more and more successful combinations will result. BTW this means that people making their own decisions about this is a good thing as that is the point of evolution.
Some points in these folks favor? They are determined. Its not like this is like walking across the street for most of these folks. If they follow a path to citizenship here? It is not simple at all for them to accomplish. The point is...from a simple genetics point of view it may very well be beneficial. In the end the infinite combinations that result even centuries from now will benefit us.
Might it today? Hard to say. But honestly its not like these folks dont exist. Give people a path to citizenship, and enforce our border laws in a manner that makes us look like the people who our dogs think we are.
If "genetics" was the end-goal, we wouldn't be subsidizing people to have kids that they can't afford. It's never a good argument on either side of the debate. You and the DarkEnlightment and his ilk should get together and discuss some liberal/conservative "genetics" grand compromise or something.
At the end of the day, you either have a functioning border and immigration system or you don't. Simply saying (tacitly or otherwise) that anyone who bypasses our entry and stay controls deserves the right to be here is a perplexing position. I personally think the work-visa program should be potentially more permissive and that the number of work-visas should be decided by state governments, and that anyone here on a work-visa should be required to live and work in a state that approved of them living/working there. You can argue/lobby with your own state legislature for how many foreigners work and live in your state on work-visas.
I never understood why this issue revolves around talking points that are immaterial to matter that we either have functioning entry and stay controls or we don't.
And BTW, the notion that these Latin American immigrants are all illiterate is ridiculous. I'd be willing to bet the immigrants from Mexico and Central America these days have higher literacy rates (and possibly also educational levels) than European immigrants from 1850-1920.
Literacy rate by country
Mexico - 95.40%
Guatemala - 81.50%
Honduras - 87.20%
El Salvador - 88.50%
Even as recently as 1981 the literacy rate in Italy was 96.5%, which is little different from Mexico's current rate.
Those aren't the people coming here illegally.... do you get that?
How does importing millions of uneducated, illiterate, unemployed people who do not speak English to the US make us a "better country"?
If these individuals are the key to a nation's prosperity, why does Guatemala, Mexico and Nicaragua not have a higher standard of living and greater GDP per capita than the US?
What are the chances of such people gaining employment in an economy that increasingly demands higher levels of technical education and degrees for employment?
Why are walls and fences required to "protect" our Capitol Building, but not the border?
So when millions can't speak English that automatically means they really are uneducated and illiterate?
Seriously, hawkey2009, if you're really concerned about all these illegal immigrants, then just why in the hell don't you ever complain about employers illegally hiring them all the time? Tell me something, hawkeye2009, did it never occur to you if they would quit being hired that they just might give up eagerly coming across the border?
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