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Old 03-11-2021, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Better to blame uneducated illegals seeking a better life than acknowledging the years the USA was sticking their noses into the other countries in the interest of democracy and human rights. Looked like protecting business interests to me, but what do I know.

And we are living the long term results of Iran Contra, too. In Central America and Iran.
So, it's all our fault? Why do you hate your own country? One that has done far more good in the world than not. Maybe focus on the vast positives of the U.S. instead of small negatives.

The U.S. is not responsible for the failure of other countries to have vibrant economies without huge corruption. Maybe blame the laziness and corruption of those Latin American countries and their leadership? You and the Democrats want to turn us into one.

 
Old 03-11-2021, 08:12 AM
 
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So, it's all our fault? Why do you hate your own country? One that has done far more good in the world than not. Maybe focus on the vast positives of the U.S. instead of small negatives.

The U.S. is not responsible for the failure of other countries to have vibrant economies without huge corruption. Maybe blame the laziness and corruption of those Latin American countries and their leadership? You and the Democrats want to turn us into one.
I don't hate this country.

Why do you say I hate my country because I am willing to recognize it's warts? How can we do better if we do not accept our faults and try to remedy them?

How can you support everything thing our state department has done and still support Trump?
 
Old 03-11-2021, 08:13 AM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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How does flooding the US with millions of illiterate, unemployed people make the US better?
An illiterate, uneducated society is more easily controlled by the elites.
 
Old 03-11-2021, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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I don't hate this country.

Why do you say I hate my country because I am willing to recognize it's warts? How can we do better if we do not accept our faults and try to remedy them?

How can you support everything thing our state department has done and still support Trump?
Please show me a post where you talked about the positives of the U.S.
 
Old 03-11-2021, 08:17 AM
 
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We still have plenty of land. Contrary to popular belief but the US is still pretty sparsely populated. Of the 100 most populated countries in the world, the US is the 79th most densely populated (source).
Notice the debate strategy. Take a perfectly good argument and find one tiny little irrelevant point, and debate it. Total avoidance.

Answer the question. How do these people make America better?
 
Old 03-11-2021, 08:18 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Notice the debate strategy. Take a perfectly good argument and find one tiny little irrelevant point, and debate it. Total avoidance.

Answer the question. How do these people make America better?
Definitely a pattern.
 
Old 03-11-2021, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Definitely a pattern.
The Leftists love to deflect.
 
Old 03-11-2021, 08:24 AM
 
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I'd be willing to bet the immigrants from Mexico and Central America these days have higher literacy rates (and possibly also educational levels) than European immigrants from 1850-1920.
Those stats are not an indication of the literacy levels of migrants.

Migrant people are typically not representative of average Mexicans and Central Americans. We get the poorest most marginalized people from those countries, many of whom have never been to school, and are completely illiterate. We even get people who don't speak Spanish at all and can't communicate with anybody.
 
Old 03-11-2021, 08:24 AM
 
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Just a simple question-

How does importing millions of uneducated, illiterate, unemployed people who do not speak English to the US make us a "better country"?
It did during the 1860s to the 1920s.
 
Old 03-11-2021, 08:30 AM
 
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It did during the 1860s to the 1920s.
That was before. Immigrants were different then. They were proud to be Americans, and first thing they did was learn English so they could assimilate. They certainly didn’t march up to the border, waving the flag of the country they were FLEEING.

Also, it didn’t cost taxpayers as much to support them. There were no free lunches and free breakfasts and subsidized housing (once an anchor baby is born), Medicaid, and all the rest.
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